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oh sorry about that and we are live

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so tonight my friends i thought i would

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talk about one of my

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all-time favorite strange cases

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an incredible rabbit hole i found

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i don't know somewhere in the 90s and i

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believe it was the excellent

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researcher jim mars who brought this

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case to my attention

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and it's a crazy story it's a

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story about a ufo crash that happened

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in a sleepy tiny little town called

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aurora texas it happened in 1897

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of the reasons i always love this case

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is because 1897

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was before the wright brothers

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so people around that time 1895

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1896 began reporting seeing

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huge strange metal airships

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flying in the sky reported first in

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and later in texas and here we have this

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case

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where we're told a flying saucer

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must have had some sort of trouble

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or malfunction and began to operate

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erratically and came crashing down

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in a judge's farm field

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this is an incredible story it's always

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been one of my favorites

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and i thought we would open tonight

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actually

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uh with my

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inspiration for why i love this case so

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much and that is the excellent

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researcher jim marsh you know i heard

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somebody

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speaking recently i think it was cw

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that not a lot of people were talking

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about jim mars and really

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if you want to go down some strange

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jim maher's books are excellent he

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passed away not long ago so i want to

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rest in peace mr mars and i think that

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he would like

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that i would actually prefer to let him

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uh some of this incredible story because

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it's not just about a ufo crash

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that's just the beginning the crazier

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reportedly a single non-human

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occupant or pilot of this incredible ufo

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and bg's is here and dream c is here

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uh the share screen that i have and i

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here jim mars tell uh really the greater

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seven or eight minutes where he's

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flying saucers unidentified flying

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april the 17th 1897 dawned

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silver cigar-shaped object dropping

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fort worth

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the aurora ufo crash has continued to

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here's what i know about it in the

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and went to pieces with a terrific

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that he was not an inhabitant of this

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hieroglyphics and cannot be deciphered

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this ship is too badly wrecked to form

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the pilot who was not an inhabitant of

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indeed occurred there in 1897

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bill told me he had used a metal

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detector on the gravesite it indicated

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they might provide the proof of what

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i too was impressed with the idea of

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of what until then i considered just an

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while case and ufo researchers set out

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to find someone to analyze whatever

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trying to put the aurora story in

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what i discovered was astounding

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well folks so let me uh

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i'm sorry let me so uh

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the in i think it was about 1973 that

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some

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ufo researchers actually tried to obtain

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permission

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to exhume the body but uh two things

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there's this historical society that

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takes care of the cemetery who would not

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allow

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any digging whatsoever and uh the second

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is that it's actually texas law that you

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the next of kin and so

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of an alien to give permission to dig

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his body up

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this is why the body the gravesite has

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some people have said that this entire

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story was just made up

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the town was dying they needed something

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so this story was just made up

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before they died spoke to firsthand

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witnesses that saw either the crash or

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the creature were both

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and some of this has been documented in

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several books

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uh among which uh jim mars you know did

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some writing on this

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and did many lectures and presentations

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as well as this documentary that we just

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saw a piece of and by the way i wanted

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to say

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fair use fair use fair use we're going

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to be discussing this case

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and uh i wouldn't say that i was like

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friends with jim mars but i

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knew him sort of as an acquaintance and

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i asked him several times before

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to you to to source him to use some of

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his research and work and he said

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use whatever you want kid just make sure

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you put my name on it so we all know

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that was jim mars

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may he rest in peace great researcher

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great writer

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and the person that i first learned this

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story from

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so i thought to get some additional

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perspective uh

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we're gonna bring in uh our guest

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tonight who unfortunately can just call

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in we can't be on video but that's okay

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we have this

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ragtag call-in system here i've never

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tried to call a guest but we're going to

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do that

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and our guest tonight is william pullen

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who is a ufo

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researcher and he's actually in

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all of these texas ufo facebook groups

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so he put this

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out for us tonight we're going to take

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just a very short break while i try to

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get him on the phone

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okay we're going to take a short break

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so i can get our guest way of pulling on

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the line please stand by

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[Music]

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okay friends we're trying to call them

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one second here

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hello hello mr poland

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how are you man how are you doing

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william you are live on truth seekers on

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and listen i don't know i don't know if

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you've been following along but i

340
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figured if you were on the phone i

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wasn't sure that you'd be able to hear

342
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it so i played this sort of introduction

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to this aurora ufo crash

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uh and that was really jim mars a part

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of his documentary the very beginning of

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it where he tells sort of the story of

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the crash

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and and what happened with this alien

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body and how the towns

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people gave it a christian burial and

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how it was reportedly buried in this

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cemetery

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he mentioned the headstone in that piece

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and i'm pretty sure when he made that

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documentary the original headstone was

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still there but somebody

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stole it and there's actually a reward

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was offered for its safe return

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and it's never come back so now they

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have some other kind of rock there

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and a cross and a sign that says alien

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here

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i wanted to get some perspective from an

364
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actual ufo researcher

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a lot of people know that mr pullen is

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well respected to be sort of no nonsense

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no fairy tales

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researcher what do you think of the

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story

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[Music]

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you know i've tried to research it at

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least

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uh several times and i keep coming up

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with votes

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um i get some pushback in the community

376
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for my position but i just don't find

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enough there

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to really grab a hold of the story if

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there was some documentation and there

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was

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um some little physical evidence of this

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illuminati

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right now we have we just have stories

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so um

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and that's what i meant at this point uh

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but

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you and i both know that you know the

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the evidence and data we have

389
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for these cases does change over time

390
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so something new came up down the road

391
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uh i would certainly breathe down on the

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case

393
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um you know i guess the biggest point

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applied for me beyond no physical

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evidence is that

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there were there were multiple

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newspapers in wise county wide counties

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where our world attempted

399
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,039
to locate yeah i noticed that too so

400
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they didn't they didn't report the story

401
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and it seems like that would be a pretty

402
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,870
and the original story was not by uh an

403
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actual

404
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like a lo

405
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somebody local in the town that was a

406
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rancher i believe and he sent the story

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into the newspaper

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and they guess they liked what he wrote

409
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:38,159
and they printed it it wasn't front page

410
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news it was on like page five but still

411
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:43,039
it wasn't it wasn't like a newspaper

412
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reporter that did the story or

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interviewed anybody it was just

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the word of one person from the town and

415
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that's a little weak to me

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news was a stringer was it which is not

417
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really a reporter per se i mean

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00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:15,120
he he is in a way but uh he got the

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story from procter

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rambler um but he didn't appear in any

421
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:20,960
other newspapers just said one

422
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:22,799
yeah i don't think that you know the ufo

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crafted on a farm

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i would think multiple new shippers

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would want to cover that but only one

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did

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so that's kind of a red flag for me sure

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and you know what i also thought was

429
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uh you know like years later people said

430
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that the story couldn't be true because

431
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uh there was no uh there was no

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windmill on judge proctor's property but

433
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years later the guys from ufo hunters

434
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went out there and they found the

435
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:53,039
foundation of the windmill

436
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at the well site which is a crazy part

437
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of the story so they sort of verified

438
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,600
yeah

439
00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:59,279
at least he had a windmill we don't know

440
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:01,919
if an alien spaceship crash landed in it

441
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,080
but we know that he did have

442
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:06,320
he did at one point there was a windmill

443
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:08,320
there

444
00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:10,400
yeah that's a lot of parts of the story

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00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:11,520
so

446
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:14,159
you know it's difficult to attack these

447
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:15,039
cases

448
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,440
from a research standpoint we have

449
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:19,120
stories going back and forth

450
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,440
um you're right they didn't confirm

451
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:23,600
those are women all the other poverty

452
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,760
uh which is that's okay that's confirmed

453
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:28,000
now the trouble was that that story kind

454
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:29,440
of went back and forth

455
00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:31,520
you know decades prior to that so it

456
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:33,120
makes it difficult to research but

457
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,720
yeah it's good that they went out there

458
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,240
and confirmed that so that's part of her

459
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:37,840
we have down pat

460
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:40,960
um was it windmill destroyed by ufo

461
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:44,080
um i don't know if we're able to find

462
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:45,120
some anomalous

463
00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:48,240
metal somewhere on the property

464
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:50,799
down the well in a tree somewhere yeah

465
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:52,720
and the ufo hunters program they

466
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:55,120
they went they to their credit they went

467
00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:57,279
down in that well in like a hazmat

468
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:59,279
suit to try to find metal and all they

469
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,880
found was like a snake so that was a

470
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:02,480
huge disappointment it was like al

471
00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:03,679
capone's vault

472
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,840
i remember watching that episode going

473
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:07,760
oh man they're going to find this alien

474
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:08,400
metal

475
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,919
because that's another strange part of

476
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:12,000
the story isn't it that people said that

477
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:12,799
people threw

478
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:15,360
the debris from the alien spacecraft

479
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:16,480
down into a well

480
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,320
which doesn't make any sense because

481
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:20,320
even country simple people know

482
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,720
you don't throw metal down into a well

483
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:24,559
that you drink from and years later a

484
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:26,559
guy got like a disfiguring

485
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,720
sort of disease that he said was from

486
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,240
drinking the bad

487
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:32,640
well water that was contaminated and the

488
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:35,120
alien people ran with that and said

489
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:36,960
yeah look he's got some kind of alien

490
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:38,960
virus because his hands were all

491
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:43,039
gnarly and scarred scarred

492
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:45,200
yeah somebody later said no that was

493
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:47,840
just very bad rheumatoid arthritis

494
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:54,230
you're not gonna throw that metal down

495
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:55,520
like you said you're not to pull it down

496
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:56,720
well people drink out of

497
00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,200
two it's it's a strange aircraft you

498
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:01,520
wouldn't throw the debris away

499
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:03,520
you would think you would hide it you

500
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:04,720
would do something with it you wouldn't

501
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,919
just throw it away so

502
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:07,840
and that's it that's incredibly part of

503
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:08,960
the case

504
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:12,000
about that and you want a uh a journal

505
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,320
that

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00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:14,480
i think he was he was he wasn't in the

507
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:15,679
area that they

508
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:18,880
he had some legions going on his hands

509
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:20,320
people made the connection and said it

510
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:21,840
was some alien virus there was some

511
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:24,720
condition caused by contact with this

512
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:27,679
alien technology um that wasn't born out

513
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:29,039
but i mean that was a disappointment

514
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:30,480
they were hoping to find them

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00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:33,600
down there and i don't know if the uh

516
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:35,679
the gentleman that went down well he uh

517
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:47,269
i'm sorry bill we had a comment from the

518
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:49,120
live chat bg's makes a good point she

519
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:49,520
says

520
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,840
unless it wasn't abandoned well then

521
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:53,120
maybe they would throw it down there i

522
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:54,159
don't know if they're just

523
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:55,760
but and then the other reports that

524
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:57,840
people a lot of people took pieces of

525
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,600
this thing like souvenirs

526
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,200
i would think after all this time

527
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,000
somebody would come forward with pieces

528
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,720
of that debris and that wreckage you

529
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,390
sure you would think so i didn't know

530
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:12,159
that's an outstanding comment if

531
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:15,200
it was who was abandoned well but that's

532
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,320
a little more reasonable

533
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:18,320
if it was a functioning well that people

534
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,080
obviously would throw metal down but

535
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:22,480
you know that's that's that's that's

536
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:23,679
getting to be determined you know that's

537
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,120
a good point that oil was dumped

538
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:27,760
example was non-functional and wasn't

539
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,000
used back in april

540
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:33,039
1897. then

541
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:35,200
people throwing metal down at well would

542
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:36,240
be a little more

543
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:39,120
reasonable as opposed to a world of

544
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:40,080
recreation

545
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:41,039
that's a very common you know

546
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:43,600
outstanding you know

547
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:46,159
yeah and and the other the other thing

548
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:48,399
that ufo hunters show did

549
00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:51,520
is those guys uh those guys yeah my

550
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:53,360
lights are squeaking i gotta oil them

551
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:55,120
out of mine uh those guys from ufo

552
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:56,399
hunters ran

553
00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:59,520
uh some ground penetrating radar which

554
00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:00,080
proved

555
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:02,080
there's something at this purported

556
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:03,600
gravesite they couldn't

557
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:06,080
dig but they ran the ground penetrating

558
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:07,600
radar and they found there's something

559
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,240
there

560
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:11,039
but it could be the body of a child or

561
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:12,720
you know just a regular human that was

562
00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:13,600
buried there

563
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:15,919
we don't have any definitive proof and i

564
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:17,520
just wanted to mention

565
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:19,360
william i sent a letter to the

566
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:21,840
historical society and the mayor of that

567
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:22,640
town

568
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:25,360
requesting that he give my show truth

569
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:26,240
seekers

570
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:28,880
permission to go there and dig and if

571
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:30,080
they have not replied

572
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:32,320
and it's been a month so i've heard they

573
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:33,760
just don't reply

574
00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,320
if they say yes i'll be the first person

575
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:38,159
to get on an airplane with a shovel in

576
00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:39,120
my bag

577
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:42,159
to go find proof that an alien really is

578
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:43,440
buried there because that's

579
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:45,679
this is tantalizing the greatest

580
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:46,640
question

581
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,480
ever could be answered if they let us

582
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:50,080
dig

583
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:58,149
yeah let us do the body

584
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,000
clearly if it's anomalous and

585
00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:02,240
non-terrestrial that proves the case

586
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:05,039
but um that seems to happen and it seems

587
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:06,399
like this is a simple thing

588
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,760
to do um technology shows that

589
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:11,120
there's something down there could be a

590
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:12,880
body it could be a small child it could

591
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:13,440
be

592
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:19,279
we don't know unless you get it up so

593
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:20,559
there's a fairly simple step

594
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:24,240
but um i i you know i i wish it would

595
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,880
just

596
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,159
you know any kind of response would be

597
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:28,080
good but that's interesting they haven't

598
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:29,520
responded at all so

599
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:35,669
well i've heard i've heard that ufo

600
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:36,399
hunters

601
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,840
really pushed and pushed to get

602
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:39,679
permission to dig and they were denied

603
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:41,120
and they've got a bunch of money behind

604
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:41,760
them

605
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:43,600
and it's the history channel which is a

606
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:44,799
little more

607
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,880
well i was going to say credible but not

608
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,720
really

609
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,360
you know but they have a lot of money

610
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,799
yeah but they got a lot of money and

611
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:54,960
fame behind them so if they request

612
00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:58,000
and they get denied i'm not hopeful

613
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,200
friends that they're gonna let me go

614
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:01,039
down there with a shovel but i guarantee

615
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:02,880
you if they say yes i'll be on a plane

616
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:03,919
tomorrow with

617
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:06,320
a shovel i got one of those speeds that

618
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:08,000
folds i can put it right in my carry-on

619
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,039
luggage man

620
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:11,360
i'll be down there digging for aliens

621
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:15,990
yeah there's uh i'm sure you've seen

622
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:17,120
that there's that

623
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:18,559
it's a very grainy black and white

624
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:20,880
photograph it was taken in the early 70s

625
00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:22,880
and it shows the great stuff there

626
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,559
yeah at some point someone stole it like

627
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:26,080
you said so um

628
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:28,960
yeah william i have i have uh i have

629
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:29,919
pictures of that

630
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:32,080
i'm gonna i'm gonna share screen so go

631
00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:33,760
ahead while i try to

632
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:37,120
try to find it

633
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:38,799
about the gravestone you yours you were

634
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:41,520
talking about the gravestone

635
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:43,919
yeah you know it looked like there's a

636
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,679
small tiny thing maybe

637
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:47,520
for tall it really looked like there's a

638
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:49,279
glorified rock

639
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:51,440
uh stuck to the ground uh but that was

640
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:52,720
standard that was the greatest dollar

641
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:54,799
but i think the picture shows

642
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,679
it looks to be a young man long haired

643
00:31:03,029 --> 00:30:59,760
standing about 10-15 feet away from us

644
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,039
is it to give a perspective or

645
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:05,120
something that subjective size but it's

646
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:07,519
very grainiest from 72-73

647
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,630
yeah we're looking at it

648
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,159
yeah we're looking at a picture of the

649
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:18,240
original stone right now and then i

650
00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:18,960
could show

651
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:21,039
they just put some kind of weird stone

652
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:22,159
like a boulder

653
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:24,960
they dropped for the tourists and this

654
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:26,000
thing that says

655
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:29,200
it's like you know oh uh you know

656
00:31:33,909 --> 00:31:32,080
this is uh this is where the alien is

657
00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:33,919
buried which i thought was kind of hokey

658
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:34,960
for them to do but

659
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:38,159
okay you know like

660
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:42,000
i i agree with you apparently

661
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,679
you know like hundreds and hundreds of

662
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,080
people visit that grave site

663
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:48,640
every year to sort of pay their respects

664
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:49,840
to the alien

665
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:56,470
of course i can see that you know i mean

666
00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:57,600
it's uh

667
00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,760
there was there were a few in the ufo

668
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:01,679
literature that

669
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,679
uh regardless of whether they pan out or

670
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,519
not whether they're extraterrestrial or

671
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:07,919
explained or hoaxes or what have you

672
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:10,159
they retained the they became a

673
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,240
legendary status

674
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:14,320
um and know aurora texas is certainly

675
00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:20,149
people visit that in droves should pay

676
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:21,679
their respects to the alien

677
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:25,360
very good over there for the olympia so

678
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:28,960
that's about it yeah

679
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:31,039
now we're looking at a picture it's

680
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:32,159
there's this

681
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:33,600
now we're looking at a picture of what's

682
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,519
actually there which is a big

683
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:37,200
boulder and somebody it looks like they

684
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:38,640
did it with like a sharpie

685
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:41,679
it says alien here and it's got an arrow

686
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:43,519
and there's like a uh

687
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:45,760
there's like a cross with some flowers

688
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:48,480
on it i guess for the alien so

689
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:50,080
that's what's there now that they

690
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:52,320
replaced the former headstone with which

691
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:54,880
i think it's kind of hokey but okay

692
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:57,200
but people hundreds of people every year

693
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,120
visit that place so i think that's

694
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:01,679
interesting right

695
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:05,440
it is it's um if you're in texas it's a

696
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,120
huge deal i mean i live in san antonio

697
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:09,200
which is about

698
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:12,480
five or six hours south of aurora and

699
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:15,679
um historic legendary for the entire

700
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:17,120
state whether you live in globally or

701
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:19,200
san antonio or dallas or houston or

702
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:22,080
whatever if you're somewhat

703
00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:40,070
legendary and it's got a life of its own

704
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:40,640
i

705
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,919
would call them there was a conference

706
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:43,760
there i think a few years ago it was a

707
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,240
small

708
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:46,480
meeting group but yeah there was a man

709
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:47,600
held there

710
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:50,720
um around the time of the crash for the

711
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,399
alleged crash uh so

712
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,720
it's a very popular story to slide like

713
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:55,919
so yeah and

714
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,159
you know we had a comment from bg's

715
00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:00,240
again in the live chat and she said

716
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:02,000
i thought there were several attempts to

717
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:03,360
dig it up

718
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:05,440
the gravestone was moved to put people

719
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:07,279
off the scent of where the body could be

720
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:09,200
yeah one of the town historians in

721
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:10,639
another documentary i saw

722
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,720
said that they moved the body but he

723
00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:14,720
didn't know where it was moved to

724
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:17,119
and that's kind of part of what leads me

725
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:18,560
to believe it could be a hoax too

726
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:19,760
because that's convenient

727
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:22,639
you know it's like michael horn with the

728
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,720
billy myers story and that laser gun

729
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:26,320
like show me the laser gun well the

730
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:28,320
aliens only lent it to them and then

731
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:29,599
they took it back so

732
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,919
i had a laser gun but i can't show it to

733
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:33,599
you so these people in this town are

734
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,399
like we

735
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,960
we had an alien body burning here but we

736
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,399
can't show it to you

737
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:40,320
and we can't tell you where we moved it

738
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:42,079
you know

739
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:47,440
it allows the religion to continue the

740
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:49,679
story is perpetuated by that

741
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:52,960
um yeah i examined some

742
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:55,919
research from stem freeman kevin randall

743
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:57,200
and

744
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:00,320
it was a researcher that was affiliated

745
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,190
studies he looked into this uh he was

746
00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:06,960
asked by alan hondak to look into this

747
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:07,839
case

748
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:09,200
and all three of the researchers could

749
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:12,560
not find a single historian

750
00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:14,960
that felt this event was true yeah and

751
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:16,160
we have

752
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,839
rinchie asks why don't they just do one

753
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:23,280
of those sonar things to see if the

754
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:24,800
alien is laying down there

755
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:27,280
and actually reem see they did ufo

756
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:27,839
hunters

757
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:30,880
episode

758
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:33,119
on this case they used ground

759
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:34,720
penetrating radar they couldn't prove

760
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:35,280
that it was an

761
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:37,680
alien but there's something buried down

762
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:38,480
there

763
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,000
and that's pretty amazing they didn't

764
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,640
find anything in the well but they found

765
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:44,400
that there's something buried at the

766
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:46,880
apparently first reported gravesite

767
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:50,079
that jim mars identified as the original

768
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:51,359
gravesite

769
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:53,680
so there's something buried there could

770
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:55,359
be rocks i mean that you know there's

771
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:58,320
just no proof

772
00:36:01,990 --> 00:36:00,800
no no we could we could easily solve it

773
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:02,000
if i

774
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:04,240
exhibited the body or whatever's there i

775
00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:06,800
mean the original story mentioned

776
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,960
about look beyond the metal fragments of

777
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:10,320
the records

778
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:13,599
mentioned that there was a documentation

779
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:16,160
recovery with the body in some screen

780
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:17,200
writing

781
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,320
where did that go yeah it is kind of

782
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:22,079
strange to me that the tombstone

783
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:24,560
the original marker stone disappeared

784
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:26,079
and it had some

785
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:27,680
some people say it had some kind of a

786
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:29,359
flying saucer on it and we should

787
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:30,800
picture it looks like some kind of

788
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:33,040
flying craft and why would they do that

789
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,400
in 1897

790
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,800
but you know it could all be part of the

791
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:38,640
elaborate hoax to get some

792
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,800
publicity for a dying town and get some

793
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:42,720
tourists it sure worked because there

794
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:43,760
are tourists

795
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,880
all over that town every year looking

796
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:48,079
for the alien body

797
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:56,390
that that idea to throw around that

798
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,400
you know aurora wanted to grab onto a

799
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:00,480
story and

800
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:02,400
uh reach some you know financial

801
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:04,400
benefits from you know i feel like what

802
00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:06,560
i mean russell certainly benefits from

803
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:10,720
the event after 47. um yeah absolutely

804
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:13,760
you know the challenge

805
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:16,240
for the atlantic case texas same thing

806
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:18,079
they haven't really benefited from

807
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:21,520
this legend so oh

808
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,640
sure thing well you know uh

809
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:26,400
i i didn't want to keep you too long i

810
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,920
just want to get your perspective on

811
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:29,280
this because i kind of trust your

812
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:30,800
judgment when it comes to these things

813
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,720
and i'm kind of on the same page as you

814
00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:33,839
but i still

815
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:35,839
really love to believe that this story

816
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:38,240
was true it's in that great basket of

817
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:40,160
like what if though

818
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:42,480
it's so tantalizing that proof of alien

819
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:45,200
life and visitation of earth by alien

820
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:45,599
life

821
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:48,240
could be buried in some tiny little town

822
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:49,760
but we can't get to it it's

823
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:52,240
tantalizing yeah you know and i'm with

824
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,839
you you know i mean professionally i

825
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:55,680
think it's a hoax but personally

826
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,400
i would love to find out relationships

827
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,560
it's a fascinating story the idea that a

828
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,320
non-terrestrial

829
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:04,960
organic biological creature is buried in

830
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,079
a texas town

831
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,880
yeah absolutely well william if i get

832
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:09,920
permission

833
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:14,000
plane ticket with me and bring a shovel

834
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,520
and a pickaxe you look you look like

835
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:19,280
you'd be better at digging a grave than

836
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:21,040
me you know you're like a little bigger

837
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,079
you know

838
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:24,160
i don't know it take me a while so i i'd

839
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:25,920
be fine with some help we'll go dig up

840
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:27,760
this alien grave and we'll

841
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:30,240
live stream it like al capone's wall

842
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:31,200
though you know

843
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:36,390
yeah and just broadcast whatever we find

844
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,310
all right well listen i want to thank

845
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:44,640
you for joining me you're only my second

846
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:45,839
guest here

847
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:48,560
and we and hopefully maybe next time you

848
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:49,200
can come on

849
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:53,359
webcam with us okay

850
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:54,960
all right you have a good night mr

851
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:56,720
poland i'll be in touch with you if i

852
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:57,920
get permission to dig

853
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:01,520
get your shovels ready

854
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,510
all right so that was our uh ufo expert

855
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:11,119
researcher lecturer

856
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:12,880
guest william pullen and will you

857
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:14,720
pulling looks into everything about this

858
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:16,160
sometimes when i'm not sure about a

859
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:17,599
certain subject

860
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:20,000
i call him and say what do you think of

861
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:20,640
this one

862
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:22,720
and we talk about it we didn't actually

863
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,839
uh pre

864
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:26,000
anything this i just told him i'm going

865
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:26,880
to do the show on

866
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:28,800
aurora crash and he said oh that's a

867
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:30,160
great story you know

868
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:31,760
and i said don't tell me anything i want

869
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,200
to see you know

870
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,359
uh you can just come on the show and

871
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:36,960
tell me what you think

872
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:39,920
and and honestly time is so short lately

873
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,480
that i

874
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:42,000
am going to be doing a lot of things

875
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:43,839
like that like talking to friends that i

876
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:45,040
really enjoy talking to

877
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:46,400
and i'm going to force them to come on

878
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:48,160
my show so that i can

879
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:50,000
you know catch up with some old friends

880
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:51,680
hopefully and and good friends that i

881
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:53,599
don't get a chance to talk too much

882
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:55,440
and we're going to go to the live chat

883
00:40:03,349 --> 00:39:59,280
and i want to ask what do you guys think

884
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,359
is this a true story or is it

885
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:06,079
a hoax generated to save a dying town

886
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:07,920
with tourism dollars

887
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,680
i will say that if it was a hoax

888
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:11,280
designed to do that it didn't work

889
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:12,400
really well

890
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:14,960
i mean it worked they got tourists out

891
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:16,960
of it but it wasn't enough to like save

892
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:17,599
a dying

893
00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:21,280
town and it's just a little ranch town

894
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:29,349
and phil player michael horn is billy

895
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:32,000
myers spokesman yes he is phil blair we

896
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:32,400
did

897
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:34,640
quite a couple of bunch of shows on the

898
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:36,319
midnight hour my previous show with

899
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:37,760
michael horne's guest

900
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:39,359
and i just wanted to announce i don't

901
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,440
know if i want this to happen

902
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:43,119
but i do want to announce that michael

903
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:44,560
horn wants to come on

904
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:48,079
this new show so that i

905
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:51,680
have an opportunity to apologize to him

906
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:54,960
because uh michael horn is now claiming

907
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:56,800
that billy meyer predicted

908
00:41:02,230 --> 00:40:59,359
all of this craziness that's going on in

909
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,240
2020 and he did it 10 or 20 years ago

910
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:04,720
uh we all know how i feel about the

911
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,319
billy meyer case

912
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:08,800
i think it's ridiculous trash can lids

913
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,240
and and nonsense

914
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,960
and uh but you know michael horn if he

915
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:14,640
if he really wants to come on here i

916
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:15,440
will let him

917
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:18,560
come on the new show uh and he can try

918
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:20,319
to explain to me how billy meyer

919
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:21,359
predicted this stuff

920
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:24,079
20 years ago i'm probably going to be

921
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,440
unconvinced

922
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,760
um and um no i'm not going to i'm sorry

923
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:29,520
michael i'm not going to apologize

924
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:32,480
for anything that happened previously uh

925
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:34,240
michael horn was supposed to come on the

926
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,079
midnight hour show and debate kalkorf

927
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,000
and he backed out and there was this big

928
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:40,400
drama thing and then he went on this

929
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:43,040
twitter rant and you know uh i don't

930
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,640
know he went nuts

931
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:47,119
so i'm not sure you know i even made an

932
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:47,760
episode

933
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:50,160
on the midnight hour show that was like

934
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:51,040
uh

935
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:53,599
getting off the billy meyer getting off

936
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:55,040
the billy meyer crazy train

937
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:58,480
and you know i got off so i'm not sure

938
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:01,200
uh i want to let him back into my life

939
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:03,040
and what kind of drama that's going to

940
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:03,520
be

941
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:10,069
my chair is different today and it's

942
00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:11,119
usually higher

943
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:14,480
so i'm like peeking over your comments

944
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:16,560
brandon young says he has nowhere else

945
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:18,160
to go

946
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:20,880
yeah that might be true and rheem see

947
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,520
not

948
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:23,760
a hoax it knocked over a windmill normal

949
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:25,520
people saw it the mayor said it was real

950
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,440
it was 100 years ago people did not make

951
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:29,280
up ufo stories at the time

952
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:32,800
i think it's a true story green tea

953
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:35,520
i think it may be a true story there's

954
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:36,160
at least

955
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,800
some evidence and there was some

956
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:40,640
witnesses

957
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:44,240
and bg's

958
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,720
brandon young i think it was an airship

959
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:48,000
that's a possibility

960
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:50,560
it very well could have been an early

961
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:51,280
airship

962
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:55,440
or zeppelin or uh helium balloon even or

963
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,680
hot air balloon there was no airplanes

964
00:43:02,230 --> 00:42:59,200
at the time there was no

965
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:02,240
satellites there was no drones

966
00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:05,280
but there was still kites and balloons

967
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:07,839
and certainly there was zeppelins and

968
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:10,640
airships were becoming very very popular

969
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:12,800
so that could be one explanation but it

970
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:13,760
doesn't explain

971
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:17,280
a little pilot uh

972
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:20,720
was it a judge or a mayor super b

973
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:24,079
fun cat uh actually the original story

974
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:24,480
was

975
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:27,040
told by the person whose property this

976
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:27,920
crashed into

977
00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:31,359
and that was judge proctor

978
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:33,520
uh later though i believe the mayor of

979
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:34,560
the town

980
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:37,359
was interviewed by someone who said that

981
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,910
and we have a little debate here between

982
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:49,599
brandon young and grimsy

983
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:51,200
ramsay says brandon young could a

984
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:53,040
zeppelin knock over a windmill i guess a

985
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:54,160
rigid airship

986
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:58,079
could maybe yeah it could because

987
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:01,119
airships have the big a lot more

988
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:04,400
cannon you know like a lot more the way

989
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:07,599
modern blinks work is there's this huge

990
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:10,160
balloon and this little tiny thing

991
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:11,440
underneath

992
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:13,359
that is the cockpit and that's pretty

993
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,760
much it but a zeppelin is different in

994
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:17,440
that there was like

995
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,040
inside the actual inflated

996
00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:24,000
part was rooms and things like that and

997
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:26,000
these observation decks and they were

998
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:26,560
huge

999
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:29,119
and that i think that could knock over

1000
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:30,000
the windmill

1001
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:32,319
i mean it depends how sturdy the

1002
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:33,520
windmill was but

1003
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,640
yeah i think it could

1004
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:38,960
and folks i don't know that anybody

1005
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,680
wants to call

1006
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:42,000
in live but we're going to take a very

1007
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:44,079
short break here

1008
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:46,480
and we're going to play the live call-in

1009
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:47,599
number

1010
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,560
uh we're going to play this bumper so if

1011
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:52,560
anybody does want to call in and comment

1012
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:54,640
you can comment on this case

1013
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:57,839
um you can ask me about upcoming shows

1014
00:45:05,030 --> 00:44:58,400
or

1015
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:05,040
whatever you want to do and we're going

1016
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:05,760
to open

1017
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,800
our lines we'll be right back folks

1018
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:10,880
with open phone lines anybody can call

1019
00:45:21,340 --> 00:45:13,920
any talk about this or any other subject

1020
00:45:21,350 --> 00:45:44,829
[Music]

1021
00:45:44,839 --> 00:45:48,280
so

1022
00:46:54,829 --> 00:45:55,150
[Music]

1023
00:46:54,839 --> 00:47:16,550
so

1024
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:19,190
and we are back and we have a call on

1025
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:20,800
the line hold on one second right

1026
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:23,599
yeah hello this is steven and you're

1027
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,079
live

1028
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:26,319
on tree seekers who are you and where

1029
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:28,880
are you calling from

1030
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:32,240
says jeffrey g r

1031
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:41,510
yeah yeah sure is oh nice to talk to you

1032
00:47:50,829 --> 00:47:44,559
yeah you too i wanted to call in on a

1033
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:51,990
show

1034
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:55,680
um but uh you know you're right i wish i

1035
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:56,400
was

1036
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,079
out

1037
00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:02,720
oh yeah i like what uh you guys what

1038
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:04,559
you're doing

1039
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:07,599
and um

1040
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:11,280
one way or another on on tonight's show

1041
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:14,880
it happened so long ago a lot of things

1042
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,760
could have uh

1043
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:17,520
you know the story could have changed

1044
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:20,800
over 100 years several times

1045
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:25,520
uh you know be mere speculation

1046
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:28,800
uh something was flying

1047
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:32,000
could have been fireworks but like you

1048
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:33,359
say there's nothing

1049
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:36,400
that blew that much back then

1050
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:40,000
uh anyways uh

1051
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,720
i actually only had that number up there

1052
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:44,400
for a second

1053
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:48,000
so i really wanted to just get it in

1054
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,800
oh sure yeah yeah and please i should

1055
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:52,319
mention this to everybody

1056
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:55,359
that phone forwards so like please only

1057
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,760
call

1058
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,079
when the show is live streaming because

1059
00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:00,319
so far i've got like 100 well not 100

1060
00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:02,240
but i've gotten like 10 calls

1061
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:03,920
like i guess people are watching the

1062
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,920
replay so i have to put something up to

1063
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,720
like go hey

1064
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:08,640
don't call when it's when it's not up

1065
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:09,839
you know

1066
00:49:14,829 --> 00:49:12,559
but yeah and yeah i get it i should tell

1067
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:14,839
i should tell everybody that jeff you

1068
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:16,960
were

1069
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,880
yeah i wanted to mention to my listeners

1070
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:20,400
because i want to have you on as a guest

1071
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,839
because you were a victim of the

1072
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:23,040
paradise

1073
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:26,480
fires and there's a lot of conspiracies

1074
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:26,880
and

1075
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:31,040
were very strongly against david wilcock

1076
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:31,760
telling his

1077
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,119
bs fairy tales about paradise being

1078
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,359
destroyed by an energy weapon and people

1079
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:39,359
are trying to profit from all the misery

1080
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:40,960
in that town and that's terrible

1081
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:43,920
i'm sorry that happened to you don't

1082
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:44,240
know

1083
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:47,599
the half of it the lawsuit is so

1084
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:50,880
rigged i have been very very

1085
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:53,920
involved in that in uh

1086
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:01,190
and i know you were talking to erin

1087
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:03,280
brockovich right because she's involved

1088
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:09,200
in that case on the phone

1089
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,200
about four times now uh we're totally

1090
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:15,359
getting screwed in the lobster

1091
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:19,280
it's a land grab uh it wasn't

1092
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,480
dues or do charge i mean the winds were

1093
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:24,880
80 miles an hour that morning

1094
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:28,400
hot and dry forever a cigarette

1095
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:31,680
would have started that fire uh

1096
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:34,640
you know i hear gabriel talking about

1097
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:36,319
the super soldiers that

1098
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:39,520
jump out of airplanes and don't

1099
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,119
parachutes uh and land

1100
00:50:47,109 --> 00:50:45,119
and they surrounded the town and laid it

1101
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:47,119
on fire you know that's all

1102
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:52,319
peter garvey she went on a cassidy show

1103
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:55,520
and said that she went up there and

1104
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,559
the day that she said she went up there

1105
00:51:01,670 --> 00:51:01,200
was the first thing they have that any

1106
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:01,680
of us

1107
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:04,400
in and there's only three ways to get up

1108
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:05,040
there

1109
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:07,359
and you had to go through a security

1110
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:08,400
checkpoint

1111
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:11,440
you had to give them your id you had to

1112
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:13,040
prove where you were going and not

1113
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:15,119
all of the areas in the town were even

1114
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:16,319
opened up

1115
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:18,079
you could only go to your place you had

1116
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:20,079
to wear a hat see

1117
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:22,079
well i'll get with tamira's queen she

1118
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:24,319
went up there with somebody

1119
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,160
they didn't let her hand she didn't go

1120
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:28,800
up there and she said she went to a

1121
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:30,160
school

1122
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:33,520
and vandalized a uh

1123
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:36,800
uh an electrical box and saw

1124
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:39,119
a smart meter in there that was

1125
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:41,760
exploding but failed to explode

1126
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:43,760
but you know this is so yeah all these

1127
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:51,270
these theories you know the redwood

1128
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,119
trees and all that

1129
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:54,960
redwood trees don't even grow in

1130
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:57,280
paradise they're out on the coast

1131
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:00,640
but there are several videos on

1132
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:04,720
youtube that have drier footage

1133
00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:07,200
and even people in airplanes that fly

1134
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:08,079
over

1135
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:11,680
thousands of homes where all you can see

1136
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:15,280
is a pad you will not see elevator shaft

1137
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:18,960
number one on those pads

1138
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:22,319
there was another outfit uh trying to

1139
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:25,119
exploit the fire like wilcock

1140
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:29,200
and the butte county district attorney's

1141
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:30,160
office

1142
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,200
uh file criminal charges against them

1143
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:35,680
they were trying to sell pillows or

1144
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:36,800
something

1145
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:38,720
but you know we're a close-knit

1146
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:40,000
community

1147
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:43,280
and they know about willcock uh

1148
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:46,559
they weren't sure how he was exploiting

1149
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:47,359
it

1150
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:52,640
yeah but if he if he does

1151
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:55,839
live streams and saw the donations

1152
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:58,000
yeah yeah if he's if he's telling fake

1153
00:53:00,870 --> 00:53:00,400
stories he's telling fake stories about

1154
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,880
power

1155
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:02,720
about this paradise fire then he's

1156
00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:04,880
profiting from the misery of all those

1157
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,440
people

1158
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:07,119
and he's taking super chat chat

1159
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:09,920
donations for lying about

1160
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,640
you know some weird oh there was aliens

1161
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:14,400
in that town and the government blew it

1162
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:15,920
up with an energy weapon that's what

1163
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:17,200
caused the fire

1164
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:19,040
he's so full of it and he's taking

1165
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,630
he didn't even know paradise existed

1166
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:28,319
until that fire hell

1167
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:31,440
a bunch of people did it's a small town

1168
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:34,240
it's a retirement community these are

1169
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:35,599
mostly old people

1170
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:39,200
a lot of them are still homeless

1171
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:42,800
it is a land grab i will admit that

1172
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:46,079
uh every bit of this case

1173
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,280
is fixed i have nothing nice to say

1174
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:51,440
about erin brockovich

1175
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:54,720
she was hired she actually works for pg

1176
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:57,839
e and if you look at her history

1177
00:54:01,349 --> 00:54:00,800
and you go to hinkley nevada all of

1178
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:01,359
those

1179
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,640
former clients that uh were represented

1180
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:07,280
by the law firm she was working for

1181
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:16,710
look at these disasters and in this case

1182
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:19,200
this was perfect for aaron brockovich

1183
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:21,839
because i signed on to it with her too

1184
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:23,760
thinking who better you want to have

1185
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:24,559
than to see

1186
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:27,839
pg e than erin well

1187
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,720
she got this big court lawyer who's her

1188
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:32,800
boss that hired her

1189
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:36,559
they rounded that 18 000

1190
00:54:51,910 --> 00:54:50,950
they did absolutely nothing to help us

1191
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:51,920
in our lobby

1192
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:55,520
and this attorney and eric brockovich

1193
00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:58,720
received a hundred million dollar loan

1194
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:02,160
from zucchini uh while they were

1195
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:03,200
allegedly

1196
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,680
representing us uh

1197
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:09,359
yeah listen why don't we why don't we

1198
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,799
save it for a whole show because we

1199
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,480
could do well i could do a whole show on

1200
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:15,040
all the paradise conspiracies and give

1201
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:20,400
me the perfect guest

1202
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:23,839
uh if there was a way i could prove

1203
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:26,880
exactly how much money he's making

1204
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:30,240
and show them they will file charges

1205
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:32,960
with the district attorney's office uh

1206
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:34,000
there's been

1207
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:38,400
three now the one the big one is today

1208
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:42,319
pg e uh quite guilty to

1209
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:46,000
85 counts of manslaughter and

1210
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:49,280
recklessly starting a fire yeah i saw

1211
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:49,599
that

1212
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,160
coming from

1213
00:56:12,069 --> 00:55:58,000
that they've agreed to pay it comes out

1214
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:17,430
how much money david wilcock is pulling

1215
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:20,630
uh the district attorney will file

1216
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:23,839
a criminal complaint against him

1217
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:25,760
wow well i'd be happy to help you with

1218
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:28,480
that let's keep in touch

1219
00:56:32,069 --> 00:56:31,359
yeah great yeah you have my number there

1220
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,079
i guess

1221
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:34,880
yes i do you know how to contact me

1222
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:35,359
anyway

1223
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:38,400
you can contact victor again dan and i

1224
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,589
other than that yeah okay i'll let

1225
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,040
someone else get on there

1226
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:03,280
okay great nice talking to you jeff you

1227
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:04,319
have a good evening

1228
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:06,400
thanks for calling street seekers take

1229
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:11,829
all right so yeah jeff is terrible he

1230
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:13,599
had a terrible experience he lost

1231
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,760
his his home was burned he lost

1232
00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:17,359
everything they owned

1233
00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:19,119
and then we have these clowns coming

1234
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:21,200
along like david wilcock

1235
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:23,520
you know telling fairy tales about

1236
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:24,720
aliens and

1237
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:27,280
government energy weapons so of course

1238
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:28,880
him and the residents of paradise are

1239
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:30,559
not happy with one

1240
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:33,680
uh mr david wilcock and mr wolcott if

1241
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:35,839
you're watching and i'm sure one of your

1242
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:38,079
you know idiot friends will send this to

1243
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:38,880
you

1244
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:42,160
uh i don't know uh if

1245
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:44,960
you could or would or will be criminally

1246
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:46,480
prosecuted but

1247
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:49,200
the paradise residents want you to be

1248
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:51,280
for profiting from their misery

1249
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:54,240
and honestly i think you should be but

1250
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:55,119
let's get back

1251
00:58:02,870 --> 00:57:59,760
to uh the the live stream

1252
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:02,880
uh or let's get back to

1253
00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:04,799
we get back to the live chat and

1254
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:06,559
actually i had one more

1255
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:09,680
uh sort of video that i thought we could

1256
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:10,640
play

1257
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:13,680
uh which is it's done by like uh let me

1258
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:14,240
see that

1259
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:16,319
the texas bucket list which i thought

1260
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,680
was great because

1261
00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:19,440
it's a youtube channel dedicated to all

1262
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:22,319
the things you should do in texas before

1263
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:24,240
you kick the bucket and he visits all

1264
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:25,599
these crazy sites and

1265
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:27,760
he just tells a great story so i thought

1266
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:30,000
we could look at what's going on

1267
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:32,720
lately in modern times and this is

1268
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,240
pretty recent video

1269
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:36,319
and again i'm gonna say fair use uh

1270
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:38,000
because we're discussing this and this

1271
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:40,000
is a transformative work

1272
00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:42,960
but we're gonna try and take a look at

1273
00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:45,440
what's going on in that alien graveyard

1274
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:47,200
lately and here from

1275
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:49,760
uh i believe it's the town historian or

1276
00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:51,440
mayor is in this video who gets

1277
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:52,480
interviewed

1278
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:03,190
see if we can't find that

1279
01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:03,030
there we go

1280
01:00:12,839 --> 01:00:15,910
here

1281
01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:18,630
the browser actually crashed let me take

1282
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:19,359
a look

1283
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:21,040
uh just to make sure that we're still

1284
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:23,680
broadcasting sorry about that folks

1285
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,799
i don't know why that happened i've

1286
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:28,559
never seen a browser crash like that in

1287
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:30,559
the middle of a broadcast before

1288
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:32,480
so just bear with me for one second

1289
01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:35,040
folks while i uh verify that we're still

1290
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:40,309
and then i'll try to get the share

1291
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:42,559
screen going again

1292
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:51,430
it's the cabal super v fun cat says it's

1293
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:52,400
the cabal

1294
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:57,119
knock that out we'll go back well it's

1295
01:01:02,150 --> 01:00:58,319
good to know if the

1296
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,160
browser crashes that i can still

1297
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:04,720
uh i don't have to go to gmail to get my

1298
01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:06,000
uh

1299
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:07,839
just stand by guys i gotta get into

1300
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:10,880
gmail to get the link here

1301
01:01:22,829 --> 01:01:13,599
open lines fighting for justice oh here

1302
01:01:22,839 --> 01:01:36,829
texas

1303
01:01:44,870 --> 01:01:40,950
okay

1304
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:56,950
texas bucket list

1305
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:04,150
farts or would you

1306
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:07,510
aurora texas a small community

1307
01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:10,400
north of fort worth may be named for the

1308
01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:12,960
glimmering light show scene in the sky

1309
01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:15,039
but it's something that fell from the

1310
01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:16,400
wild blue yonder

1311
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:19,119
that's legendary in this town well you

1312
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:21,200
guys have interesting history here

1313
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:24,960
we do have with that yes dan mcintyre is

1314
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:27,520
the town's historic preservation officer

1315
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:30,000
an interesting title for a place that's

1316
01:02:34,710 --> 01:02:32,319
only got about 1200 people

1317
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:34,720
but it used to be much bigger you used

1318
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:36,480
to have a population i understand over

1319
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:37,920
5000 here

1320
01:02:41,670 --> 01:02:40,240
and there was some problems they had a

1321
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:41,680
epidemic they went through and kind of

1322
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:42,240
wiped

1323
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:45,520
a lot of the population out also the

1324
01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:48,400
railroad bypass to town there's a

1325
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:49,599
pamphlet out called

1326
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:51,760
the town that almost was during the

1327
01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:54,240
continuous downtrodden times of the late

1328
01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:55,520
1800s

1329
01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:57,839
something out of this world is said to

1330
01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:58,960
have happened here

1331
01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:01,280
well there's a rumor about the spaceship

1332
01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:03,110
that hit one of the windmills

1333
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:08,040
[Music]

1334
01:03:13,829 --> 01:03:10,720
[Applause]

1335
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:13,839
file this one under strange and unusual

1336
01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:16,720
because this story is just getting

1337
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:18,079
started

1338
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:22,079
as i understand it the spaceship hits

1339
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:24,720
judge proctor's windmill out there and

1340
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:26,240
crashes they took

1341
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:28,000
the alien's body and they buried him at

1342
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:29,680
the cemetery and gave him a christian

1343
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:30,640
barrel

1344
01:03:35,029 --> 01:03:32,240
several of the people in the area they

1345
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:35,039
went out and looked at the crash scene

1346
01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:37,119
i understand they threw parts of the

1347
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:38,720
spacecraft down in the well

1348
01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:40,960
other people just took you know and

1349
01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:42,319
carried off what they could of it you

1350
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:42,799
know

1351
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:44,799
which people would do i would suspect

1352
01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:46,000
the alleged crash

1353
01:03:49,470 --> 01:03:48,160
even made the dallas morning news on

1354
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:49,480
april 19

1355
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:52,640
1897 submitted to the paper by aurora

1356
01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:53,200
resident

1357
01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:56,240
s e hayden a local cotton buyer the

1358
01:04:00,549 --> 01:03:57,440
alien news

1359
01:04:01,270 --> 01:04:00,559
wasn't front page by any means but it

1360
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:01,280
did make

1361
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:04,160
page five while skepticism was high back

1362
01:04:07,910 --> 01:04:05,200
in the day

1363
01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:07,920
some still believe that something

1364
01:04:12,309 --> 01:04:09,359
happened here

1365
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:12,319
all you have to do is go to the cemetery

1366
01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:13,520
where the alien is

1367
01:04:16,870 --> 01:04:15,760
said to have been buried i'm sure you

1368
01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:16,880
guys get some interesting characters

1369
01:04:21,510 --> 01:04:18,799
visiting town

1370
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:21,520
uh of course do you think it's an alien

1371
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:23,200
over there

1372
01:04:27,910 --> 01:04:26,319
yeah a large stone serves as the marker

1373
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:27,920
to the foreign body that

1374
01:04:33,510 --> 01:04:30,480
has apparently been moved to keep

1375
01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:33,520
curious kleptos from digging up whatever

1376
01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:36,160
could be resting in the aurora cemetery

1377
01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:37,039
and this is

1378
01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:40,319
my understanding that he was moved

1379
01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:42,720
and buried elsewhere so that you know

1380
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:45,119
people couldn't go around digging him up

1381
01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:46,880
and it wouldn't make sense to agree the

1382
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:48,799
people that did that are all dead

1383
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:50,240
i don't know if they passed it on to

1384
01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:51,599
anybody else but i'm not aware of

1385
01:04:56,069 --> 01:04:53,039
anybody that knows actually the

1386
01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:56,079
the action burial site but

1387
01:04:59,670 --> 01:04:57,760
you know again you know that going back

1388
01:05:01,750 --> 01:04:59,680
that good old texas law

1389
01:05:02,789 --> 01:05:01,760
you got to get permission of it next to

1390
01:05:05,109 --> 01:05:02,799
ken to dig him up

1391
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:05,119
anyway so you know unless you're the

1392
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:06,880
people digging him somewhere

1393
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:09,599
and unless you're the people that's

1394
01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:11,200
going to move you

1395
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:14,240
despite being a far out story with no

1396
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,160
real physical proof

1397
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:18,720
people still stop by to pay their

1398
01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:19,760
respects

1399
01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:22,640
to ned the resident out of this world

1400
01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:23,920
alien corpse that

1401
01:05:31,349 --> 01:05:27,839
may or may not be buried here

1402
01:05:33,029 --> 01:05:31,359
hello you came all this way you're out

1403
01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:33,039
in the middle of nowhere you gotta

1404
01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:34,799
you gotta at least venture another 50

1405
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:36,079
yards to see the alien

1406
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:37,920
ricky lee and family happened to be

1407
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:40,000
saying goodbye to a lost loved one

1408
01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:42,880
from this earth when they decided to see

1409
01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:44,640
what the cosmic commotion was

1410
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:46,960
all about yeah i think there's nothing

1411
01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:47,920
down there

1412
01:05:52,069 --> 01:05:50,000
it's just part of our background to come

1413
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:52,079
up here and when we have a funeral a

1414
01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:53,280
family funeral

1415
01:05:56,870 --> 01:05:55,760
we come and pay our respects to the

1416
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:56,880
alien also

1417
01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:59,839
so how fun is it to show up at a

1418
01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:01,280
cemetery after someone just gets out of

1419
01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:02,400
a funeral and have them over here

1420
01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:03,599
laughing and smiling not even five

1421
01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:04,640
minutes after that

1422
01:06:07,910 --> 01:06:06,799
i thought it was very interesting and it

1423
01:06:11,029 --> 01:06:07,920
didn't you know it

1424
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:11,039
lent a lot i think they enjoyed it a lot

1425
01:06:15,029 --> 01:06:12,640
i think it probably lessened their

1426
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:15,039
their pain all right that's what i've

1427
01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:16,720
seen anyway

1428
01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:19,680
and for me i thought it was nice very

1429
01:06:23,829 --> 01:06:21,520
few funerals can say that

1430
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:23,839
so the story of an alien ship that

1431
01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:25,920
crashed in the windmill of one judge

1432
01:06:30,390 --> 01:06:26,880
proctor

1433
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:30,400
lives on perhaps for light years

1434
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:33,520
but it does bring a smile to some

1435
01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:36,400
when they need it most and keeps that

1436
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:38,079
tingling question of

1437
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:41,359
are we alone hovering in our heads

1438
01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:44,400
i like to think there's a other life out

1439
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:45,200
there i

1440
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:48,960
uh not so sure the people of aurora

1441
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:54,549
so sure about what they saw but i would

1442
01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:55,920
like i'd like to think it's

1443
01:07:01,029 --> 01:06:59,440
true it'd be awesome

1444
01:07:03,029 --> 01:07:01,039
it's the essence of the question are we

1445
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:03,039
alone out there

1446
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:06,160
we're not alone we know that you know

1447
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:08,960
we know we're not alone but what's there

1448
01:07:12,230 --> 01:07:10,160
who's there

1449
01:07:13,829 --> 01:07:12,240
that's the question that's the big

1450
01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:13,839
question right there

1451
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:16,079
it's just because it's a good story a

1452
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:18,720
good old hometown story

1453
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:22,319
so good to come follow a trail i am a

1454
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:24,160
strong believer

1455
01:07:29,589 --> 01:07:28,000
and the deer lord is powerful enough

1456
01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,599
that if he wanted to create another

1457
01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:31,119
universe and other people he could have

1458
01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:31,839
done it

1459
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:34,160
he didn't have to tell us about it and

1460
01:07:39,029 --> 01:07:35,760
that's what i believe strongly

1461
01:07:41,109 --> 01:07:39,039
do i believe might as well offer the fun

1462
01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:41,119
of it

1463
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:42,160
there's going to be a point in time when

1464
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:43,200
you guys are taking a grape you're going

1465
01:07:47,589 --> 01:07:45,119
to come across an unmarked uh grave do

1466
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:47,599
you venture opening it

1467
01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:51,200
i don't expect to open

1468
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:54,000
anything i'm gonna have to ask you to

1469
01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:56,640
look right here

1470
01:08:02,710 --> 01:08:00,559
okay so that's sort of uh

1471
01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:02,720
to see i i wanted to show that just to

1472
01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:04,880
show sort of the cultural significance

1473
01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:07,359
and and how people yeah like this woman

1474
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:09,359
in the video said she followed the trail

1475
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:10,880
to get to that alien

1476
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:13,520
graveyard and to see where that alien

1477
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:15,760
just might be buried

1478
01:08:24,309 --> 01:08:19,440
uh that is

1479
01:08:27,749 --> 01:08:24,319
uh just a great part of the story

1480
01:08:30,309 --> 01:08:27,759
so we're gonna go back to the live chat

1481
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:30,319
and go anybody can you know have

1482
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:32,799
comments or questions the sort of

1483
01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:34,319
windmill is embedded firmly in the

1484
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:36,159
ground something huge and heavy

1485
01:08:39,269 --> 01:08:38,159
would knock it over it had to be a big

1486
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:39,279
thing to knock

1487
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:42,480
it over yeah i agree with you

1488
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:44,480
rimsey whatever knocked over that

1489
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:46,319
windmill it had to be

1490
01:08:50,229 --> 01:08:48,880
really a big thing to knock over the

1491
01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:50,239
windmill

1492
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:53,679
uh yeah and uh

1493
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:55,679
just gonna do another share screen and

1494
01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:57,440
put the phone number back up

1495
01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,480
in case anybody else wanted to call or

1496
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:01,920
actually wait i don't have to share

1497
01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:12,870
let's go to i have

1498
01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:15,279
just an overlay here and my mic will be

1499
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:16,640
muted so i'm just going to put the

1500
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:17,440
number back up

1501
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:19,520
if anybody wants to call you can call in

1502
01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:21,199
if you have any questions or comments

1503
01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:22,640
about this case or

1504
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:24,880
any other case or anything you really

1505
01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:25,679
want to talk about

1506
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:28,640
in the paranormal conspiracy land realm

1507
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:29,120
uh

1508
01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:38,390
so the lines are open you can call now

1509
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:45,440
the phone number is 267-482-0612

1510
01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:48,719
again four that's two

1511
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:55,030
somebody commented on my antique phones

1512
01:10:02,070 --> 01:09:58,080
i i have a thing for antique phones

1513
01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:02,080
i try to get you know it's funny to see

1514
01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:04,080
young people like try to work one of

1515
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:06,400
these phones

1516
01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:13,030
so if anybody wants to call in live you

1517
01:10:17,030 --> 01:10:14,239
can do that

1518
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:17,040
and somebody already copied and pasted

1519
01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:17,440
the

1520
01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:24,960
we're gonna go back to comments if my

1521
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:27,199
mouse wants to cooperate with me

1522
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:29,600
i really have to work on my setup here

1523
01:10:34,630 --> 01:10:31,360
because

1524
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:36,470
i can't find the mouse cursor there it

1525
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:38,800
is there we go

1526
01:10:44,550 --> 01:10:41,440
there we go i'm back to the live chat

1527
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,560
and yeah room c

1528
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:46,719
this is the call in line if anybody

1529
01:10:49,510 --> 01:10:48,239
would like to call in brandon young

1530
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:49,520
mentioned calling in

1531
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:51,679
would be happy to have you brandon and

1532
01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:52,960
put a

1533
01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:55,120
voice to your name i've seen you in so

1534
01:11:03,350 --> 01:10:57,120
many different live chats

1535
01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:06,870
and we have another comment here

1536
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:08,880
from reem cs storm certainly couldn't

1537
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:10,239
knock one of those over

1538
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:11,920
those things are sturdy and will stand

1539
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:14,080
around forever unless someone takes it

1540
01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:15,120
down

1541
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:17,840
i've seen these big commercial even the

1542
01:11:21,030 --> 01:11:18,640
old school

1543
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:21,040
like really old windmills on a farm i

1544
01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:22,320
don't know what they use them for i

1545
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:24,159
guess the dairy power i don't know

1546
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:27,280
uh yeah i agree with rimsey a storm is

1547
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:34,870
and super v fun cat says i'm surprised

1548
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:37,040
there's not more high strangeness in the

1549
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:39,120
town reported yeah

1550
01:11:43,350 --> 01:11:42,000
maybe uh maybe that that was really all

1551
01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:43,360
that happened there a

1552
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:45,920
paranormal note and you mentioned

1553
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:47,280
calling my cell phone whenever you want

1554
01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:47,840
super b

1555
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:49,199
you can call me whenever you want i

1556
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:50,800
don't know about everybody else but you

1557
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:55,840
you can call me

1558
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,880
green she says brandon is kind and super

1559
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:00,880
smart

1560
01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:04,000
and super mercury goes into retrograde

1561
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:04,880
tomorrow

1562
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:07,120
you know what super b i try to not pay

1563
01:12:11,110 --> 01:12:08,000
attention to this

1564
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:11,120
mercury in retrograde stuff i really do

1565
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:14,400
but then stuff happens

1566
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:17,120
every time that mercury i hate it every

1567
01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:18,880
time that thing happens

1568
01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:22,000
it seems like weird things happen never

1569
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:24,400
good things it's always like drunk

1570
01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:26,000
family drama hits or

1571
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:29,040
like the car blew up or something weird

1572
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:30,960
like that always happens to me

1573
01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:35,280
so i am not good to see

1574
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:37,040
i'm not glad to see mercury in

1575
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:38,480
retrograde

1576
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:39,760
but i'm not really a believer in

1577
01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:41,679
astrology so i don't know how that works

1578
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:43,280
but i'm telling you i've had weird

1579
01:12:51,189 --> 01:12:44,880
things happen to me

1580
01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:51,199
when that stuff goes on

1581
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:53,520
and out of mind yeah maybe your

1582
01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:55,040
intention because of mercury

1583
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:02,149
yeah and before i forget i want to thank

1584
01:13:08,950 --> 01:13:05,440
everybody who has been like sharing and

1585
01:13:11,510 --> 01:13:08,960
retweeting the link to our show here uh

1586
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:11,520
i made the decision to start a brand new

1587
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:12,800
youtube channel which

1588
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:15,600
in hindsight was probably not the best

1589
01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:16,239
idea

1590
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:17,920
and i did that because my old youtube

1591
01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:19,760
channel was just kind of dumped for

1592
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,840
anything creative i did i put music on

1593
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:23,120
there uh

1594
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:25,440
there's some old magic videos of me on

1595
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:26,320
there

1596
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:31,600
if you want to listen to any of the old

1597
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:33,520
midnight hour shows they're all

1598
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:36,480
shows now that sounds weird to say that

1599
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:37,199
um

1600
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:39,920
you know and i have to say everything

1601
01:13:43,030 --> 01:13:41,760
that i didn't like about doing a radio

1602
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:43,040
show

1603
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:48,880
i didn't that there was i loved radio

1604
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:49,840
and honestly

1605
01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:52,480
like my my mom used to joke and my dad

1606
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:54,239
especially would joke that i had a

1607
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:57,840
great face for radio so i

1608
01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:00,080
i enjoyed being on the radio though and

1609
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:02,239
i really enjoyed just being a voice in

1610
01:14:04,470 --> 01:14:02,960
the wind

1611
01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:04,480
you know i thought that was cool and

1612
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:06,080
more mysterious

1613
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:08,320
but some of the things i did not like i

1614
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:09,600
didn't like the lack of

1615
01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:12,000
interactivity the show was pre-recorded

1616
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:13,760
now

1617
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:16,080
the folks from the fringe fm sort of

1618
01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:17,679
helped me to learn how i could do it

1619
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:18,239
live

1620
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:21,520
but it was very very difficult and uh

1621
01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:23,199
this the way the technology is going

1622
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:24,719
with the streaming software everything

1623
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:25,520
that i want to do

1624
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:28,480
i'm now able to do i can listen to live

1625
01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:30,400
callers can call in and i always wanted

1626
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:31,520
to do that

1627
01:14:35,830 --> 01:14:34,960
um we can have live uh we have people in

1628
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:35,840
the chat

1629
01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:38,880
with all of their comments uh

1630
01:14:44,550 --> 01:14:42,000
and things like that and

1631
01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:44,560
you really i can have any guests so if

1632
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:46,239
anybody would like to come on screen and

1633
01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:48,080
be a guest if you have a webcam and a

1634
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:49,280
microphone

1635
01:14:52,709 --> 01:14:51,360
uh and please wear a pair of headphones

1636
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:52,719
otherwise there's a lot of like

1637
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,679
looping and echoing but i can just send

1638
01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:57,600
you a link if you put an email in the

1639
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:58,400
chat

1640
01:15:04,229 --> 01:15:01,679
and you can come and we have paranormal

1641
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:04,239
but jiggy is here i'm hoping that i can

1642
01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:04,960
get

1643
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:06,640
jiggy jiggy you gotta come and be a

1644
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:08,400
guest because i want to start covering

1645
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:10,080
some of the ghost hunting stuff and i

1646
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:11,679
know you've done a lot of that

1647
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:15,199
and like real field investigations and

1648
01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:16,960
uh coming up we have a bunch of

1649
01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:18,800
different shows one is on

1650
01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:22,400
the legendary suicide

1651
01:15:29,189 --> 01:15:26,000
forest in japan that is a crazy story

1652
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:29,199
and i found out by chance that of all

1653
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:30,000
people

1654
01:15:33,830 --> 01:15:31,600
he's got his hand in everything

1655
01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:33,840
paranormal i don't know how he does it

1656
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:34,159
but

1657
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:37,360
jason quit has been to the suicide

1658
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:38,320
forest

1659
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:40,239
in japan and when he heard i was doing a

1660
01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:42,400
show he sent me all these pictures

1661
01:15:46,149 --> 01:15:44,239
and we're gonna have him come on maybe

1662
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:46,159
not for the full show but at least to

1663
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:48,159
tell his story of when he visited

1664
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:51,440
the japanese suicide forest

1665
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:53,199
i don't know the name of it offhand uh

1666
01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:54,800
it's you know it's a japanese name but

1667
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:55,600
there's a forest

1668
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:59,280
in japan where thousands of people have

1669
01:16:01,669 --> 01:16:01,040
gone into that forest and killed

1670
01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:01,679
themselves

1671
01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:04,719
it's a crazy crazy story we're going to

1672
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:05,760
be covering that

1673
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:10,000
and we have uh we have uh

1674
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:11,840
rachel hoffman from paranormal

1675
01:16:16,390 --> 01:16:13,760
expeditions is going to be on our show

1676
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:16,400
coming up and uh we're also going to be

1677
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:18,080
doing a show on the cash

1678
01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:21,520
land drum incident and uh

1679
01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:24,080
we have a guest for that that will be

1680
01:16:28,410 --> 01:16:25,600
coming up as well

1681
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:28,420
we're gonna have dan hogan also

1682
01:16:32,830 --> 01:16:30,320
[Music]

1683
01:16:36,149 --> 01:16:32,840
one second i would get to my twitter

1684
01:16:39,669 --> 01:16:37,750
of course twitter messages are not going

1685
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:39,679
to work for me now right something went

1686
01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:46,630
uh let me get to my profile i'll be able

1687
01:16:52,870 --> 01:16:48,400
to find

1688
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:52,880
a lot of upcoming guests we're going to

1689
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:54,960
be doing some stuff on ghost hunting

1690
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:56,400
we're going to be covering the japanese

1691
01:17:00,790 --> 01:16:58,400
suicide forest

1692
01:17:02,630 --> 01:17:00,800
um i sort of i was going to do the

1693
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:02,640
japanese suicide forest tonight but

1694
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:03,360
since jason

1695
01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:04,880
was just on the show i think we'll do a

1696
01:17:11,590 --> 01:17:07,360
few shows before we do that one

1697
01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:13,350
we're going to be doing a show on ghost

1698
01:17:17,189 --> 01:17:15,520
hunting and evps

1699
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:17,199
we've got a lot of upcoming things i've

1700
01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:19,520
got a huge folder of subjects

1701
01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:21,120
and i just need the time to get to them

1702
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:22,640
i keep saying i want to try to do more

1703
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:24,080
than one show a week i

1704
01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:26,159
ideally i'd love to do three or four but

1705
01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:28,000
time is short

1706
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:31,040
kids and covet and i'm also

1707
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:34,159
busily trying to find a way to earn a

1708
01:17:38,149 --> 01:17:35,920
living here

1709
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:38,159
this uh quarantine and everything has

1710
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:40,320
been absolutely devastating

1711
01:17:44,149 --> 01:17:43,040
financially it's like every marketable

1712
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:44,159
skill that i have

1713
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:47,600
i can't really do my business um most of

1714
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:49,520
my computer business was going into

1715
01:17:51,830 --> 01:17:51,120
people's homes and fixing their

1716
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:51,840
computers

1717
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:54,400
on-site service nobody wants me in their

1718
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:55,360
house

1719
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:58,400
uh and what i also did for a

1720
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:01,199
long time if i needed extra money i

1721
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:02,159
would uber

1722
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:04,400
but my wife is very nervous about me

1723
01:18:08,229 --> 01:18:06,320
doing that anybody could cough on me

1724
01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:08,239
sit in my back seat and i could bring it

1725
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:10,159
home so really i've done

1726
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:13,840
nothing for 77 or 80 days now

1727
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:16,960
and had very very little income uh so

1728
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:18,480
i'm trying to put together some things

1729
01:18:23,110 --> 01:18:19,199
to sell

1730
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:23,120
marketing

1731
01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:26,000
uh you know it's rough out there so you

1732
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:27,840
know i also thought i wanted to make it

1733
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:28,320
a point

1734
01:18:31,669 --> 01:18:29,920
we're not going to have any commercials

1735
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:31,679
or i'm not going to be hawking things or

1736
01:18:34,790 --> 01:18:32,800
like

1737
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:34,800
you can support me on patreon just

1738
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:37,120
search by my name stevencambian

1739
01:18:41,030 --> 01:18:38,719
and we're going to be bringing back this

1740
01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:41,040
thing like uh backstage pass

1741
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:43,280
so basically you know all the projects

1742
01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:45,440
that i work on whether it's music or

1743
01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:47,360
i've been writing a lot of stuff for an

1744
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:48,800
eventual book

1745
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:52,480
and recording new music

1746
01:18:57,510 --> 01:18:55,040
i have some pieces of a documentary on

1747
01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:57,520
paranormal subjects as well

1748
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:59,360
basically the way that my patreon works

1749
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:00,800
is i'm too lazy

1750
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:03,280
to do specific things just for the

1751
01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:05,040
patreon people well actually sometimes i

1752
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:06,880
do i have like an audio journal we're

1753
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:08,159
going to bring that back i'm going to do

1754
01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:09,360
the first one this month

1755
01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:11,040
and the audio journal is just like hey

1756
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:12,320
here's some crazy things that i'm

1757
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:13,120
working on

1758
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:14,880
or upcoming things sort of a sneak

1759
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:16,560
preview and

1760
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:18,880
uh so if you're in the patreon you get

1761
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:20,000
the audio journal

1762
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:21,760
and you get everything first in other

1763
01:19:26,149 --> 01:19:23,120
words if i

1764
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:26,159
um if i finish a song

1765
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:28,080
the patreon people get it instantly the

1766
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:29,600
day that it's finished and it might not

1767
01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:31,840
be an album that's for sale or anything

1768
01:19:35,430 --> 01:19:33,040
like that

1769
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:35,440
or publicly available for another year

1770
01:19:38,229 --> 01:19:37,120
but that's what the backstage pass on

1771
01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:38,239
patreon gives you

1772
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:40,800
it just gives you the backstage pass and

1773
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:42,239
you get to see everything before the

1774
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:43,520
general public does

1775
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:44,800
and we're going to be doing some truth

1776
01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:46,800
seekers special reports

1777
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:50,239
and i'm even thinking i i may do

1778
01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:52,080
depending on how things go at the cabin

1779
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:54,320
i may bring back the midnight hour show

1780
01:20:00,390 --> 01:19:56,800
and just do one of those shows a month

1781
01:20:02,470 --> 01:20:00,400
uh that's also would go to the patreon

1782
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:02,480
people for a few weeks before it get

1783
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:04,960
uploaded anywhere so you just get things

1784
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:07,199
in advance and i don't have any tiers or

1785
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:08,560
anything like that

1786
01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:11,360
all i have is a dollar a month and i

1787
01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:12,000
would also

1788
01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:13,840
just like to mention thank you to all

1789
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:15,360
the patreon supporters because

1790
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:17,600
everything that you see here uh these

1791
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:18,560
weird lights

1792
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:21,360
the backdrop the webcam and the

1793
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:22,400
microphone were

1794
01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:25,679
all purchased from patreon money

1795
01:20:29,669 --> 01:20:28,239
uh i could say a lot about some people

1796
01:20:31,510 --> 01:20:29,679
that are getting hundreds of dollars

1797
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:31,520
thrown at them in every super chat

1798
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:33,760
thousands of dollars in some cases you

1799
01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:36,000
know honestly i just took the

1800
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:38,239
the 30 or 40 whatever it is a month from

1801
01:20:42,790 --> 01:20:39,840
the patreon and set it aside

1802
01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:42,800
and then while i was ending my radio

1803
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:44,880
show run i was slowly like buying the

1804
01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:47,040
backdrop buying some lights

1805
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:50,000
buying a better microphone uh buying a

1806
01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:51,120
webcam

1807
01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:53,040
and most of the other stuff here i had

1808
01:20:56,870 --> 01:20:54,719
but i i really

1809
01:20:58,709 --> 01:20:56,880
appreciate the patreon people because

1810
01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:58,719
ask anybody who's married

1811
01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:00,639
like the fact that i could tell my wife

1812
01:21:04,629 --> 01:21:02,560
like i'm gonna start this new show

1813
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:04,639
but all the stuff that i need for it is

1814
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:05,600
is covered by

1815
01:21:09,350 --> 01:21:07,520
the show listeners and the patreon

1816
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:09,360
supporters that's a great thing

1817
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:11,840
because then my wife has no okay okay

1818
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:13,199
you have the money from

1819
01:21:16,950 --> 01:21:15,040
you know the supporters of yours great

1820
01:21:19,350 --> 01:21:16,960
go buy all that stuff do your new show

1821
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:19,360
good luck and it wasn't like a financial

1822
01:21:24,149 --> 01:21:21,520
drain on my family

1823
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:24,159
especially right now yeah things are

1824
01:21:27,910 --> 01:21:25,040
rough

1825
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:27,920
if not for my wife you know like she has

1826
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:28,400
a good

1827
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:30,960
corporate job and you know so i'm trying

1828
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:32,880
to do other things right now

1829
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:35,520
i'm going to be really focusing on

1830
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:37,199
firewood this year that's one of the

1831
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:39,040
ways i'm contributing because

1832
01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:41,520
our gas bill here in this huge house is

1833
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,320
crazy

1834
01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:44,239
and last year we got out about half of

1835
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:45,679
it i didn't have time to get enough

1836
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:46,560
firewood

1837
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:49,679
this year i'm really focused like keep i

1838
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:51,600
feel like a lemming like chop

1839
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:54,719
cut stack you know like

1840
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:56,480
but these are the things that you got to

1841
01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:58,239
do in today's modern times

1842
01:22:01,510 --> 01:22:00,480
as a family just to get through things

1843
01:22:04,550 --> 01:22:01,520
if we could save

1844
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:04,560
we might save four or five thousand

1845
01:22:07,910 --> 01:22:06,800
at least three or four on this winter's

1846
01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:07,920
heating bill if i keep up with the

1847
01:22:11,350 --> 01:22:10,000
firewood so i'm trying to do that take

1848
01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:11,360
care of my children

1849
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:13,120
and this is a great outlet for me i want

1850
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:14,639
to thank each and every one of you guys

1851
01:22:20,709 --> 01:22:20,149
paycheck protection program beverly

1852
01:22:22,149 --> 01:22:20,719
asked

1853
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:22,159
did you apply for the paycheck

1854
01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:23,600
protection program you can if you're

1855
01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:25,120
sold proprietary business

1856
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:27,360
to pay yourself you know i didn't do

1857
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:28,560
that and my wife

1858
01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:30,480
is actually an accountant she said i

1859
01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:32,080
didn't qualify but i'm going to have her

1860
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:33,280
check again because you're like the

1861
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:34,960
third person that told me

1862
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:38,000
that i could get that

1863
01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:40,000
and brandon young says women hate

1864
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:41,280
youtube

1865
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:43,440
you know what's funny brendan is like

1866
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:45,040
mutual friends of ours

1867
01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:47,120
are commenting on my show on facebook or

1868
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:48,480
something and like i don't

1869
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:51,280
know that she's even watched it or knows

1870
01:22:53,910 --> 01:22:52,080
anything

1871
01:22:56,229 --> 01:22:53,920
that i'm doing she never really listened

1872
01:22:57,110 --> 01:22:56,239
to uh my radio show because she's just

1873
01:22:59,669 --> 01:22:57,120
uh

1874
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:59,679
you know she's not into this kind of

1875
01:23:03,669 --> 01:23:00,639
esoteric

1876
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:03,679
conspiracy land aliens you know she's a

1877
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:04,080
little

1878
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:09,440
nutty

1879
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:11,760
uh she's just not into this stuff so i

1880
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:13,520
don't i've never been one

1881
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:15,199
to push things that i was working on

1882
01:23:17,430 --> 01:23:16,960
down her throat like i learned with

1883
01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:17,440
music

1884
01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:19,600
too like there was a time when i'd write

1885
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:20,560
a song and i'd go

1886
01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:22,560
here here listen to this new song like

1887
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:24,000
she gets sick she gets burned out of

1888
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:24,639
that

1889
01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:26,639
because i'm i'm constantly making

1890
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:27,840
something and i don't want to jam it

1891
01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:28,800
down

1892
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:30,639
she doesn't i don't think she hates

1893
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:32,560
youtube but

1894
01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:34,960
brandon young wood stove yes i have a

1895
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:35,840
wood stove

1896
01:23:42,550 --> 01:23:40,080
but at my big house

1897
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:42,560
uh in the suburbs of philadelphia we

1898
01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:43,199
have like a

1899
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:46,320
i think it's a 35 it's a

1900
01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:49,520
3500 maybe 3 800 square foot house it's

1901
01:23:54,870 --> 01:23:52,000
huge huge big five bedroom three bedroom

1902
01:23:57,189 --> 01:23:54,880
three bath there's a huge basement this

1903
01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:57,199
place is huge and they keep this thing

1904
01:24:03,110 --> 01:24:00,719
so the first year we had a fireplace

1905
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:03,120
which was funny because my entire life i

1906
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:05,520
wanted a real fireplace never had one

1907
01:24:09,350 --> 01:24:07,920
i finally got one and i had already had

1908
01:24:11,030 --> 01:24:09,360
wood stoves at the cabin

1909
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:11,040
and was so impressed with the tiny

1910
01:24:14,149 --> 01:24:12,480
little wood stove and how much heat they

1911
01:24:15,669 --> 01:24:14,159
put out so when i saw this huge stone

1912
01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:15,679
fireplace here before we bought this

1913
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:17,040
place i was like that's the house it's

1914
01:24:22,229 --> 01:24:19,440
got this huge fireplace

1915
01:24:22,629 --> 01:24:22,239
you can't heat anything with a fireplace

1916
01:24:25,430 --> 01:24:22,639
oh

1917
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:25,440
i would get that thing blaring and be

1918
01:24:28,149 --> 01:24:27,600
blasting wood into this thing and it

1919
01:24:30,629 --> 01:24:28,159
would be

1920
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:30,639
blaring and you can feel it in the

1921
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:33,040
basement where the fireplace is but

1922
01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:34,960
the rest of the house was cold and the

1923
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,239
heat didn't travel

1924
01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:38,800
we put a wood stove insert with a blower

1925
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:39,280
on it

1926
01:24:42,709 --> 01:24:41,520
in that fireplace and now that can heat

1927
01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:42,719
the entire house

1928
01:24:49,990 --> 01:24:44,560
i'm a big fan of wood stoves and wood

1929
01:24:54,629 --> 01:24:52,629
oh and beverly mccarthy welcome to

1930
01:24:56,950 --> 01:24:54,639
beverly i have not seen you here before

1931
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:56,960
welcome to truth seekers i hope you will

1932
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:00,719
like comment and subscribe uh

1933
01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:02,960
she says i may be wrong you may need one

1934
01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:03,920
employee

1935
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:06,880
call your bank to be sure though well i

1936
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:09,280
am a sole proprietor

1937
01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:12,400
and uh no i don't have any employees

1938
01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:15,840
so and super fun cat you can hire me as

1939
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:17,840
an employee you'll qualify pay me

1940
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:21,199
in a retro phone that's a deal super me

1941
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:22,800
you could be like you could be like the

1942
01:25:34,550 --> 01:25:27,040
truth seekers operator

1943
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:36,950
dreamsy says fireplaces are awesome i

1944
01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:39,040
use mine until hot weather comes i love

1945
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:40,320
fireplaces

1946
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:43,120
i like i really i have to say i like the

1947
01:25:46,629 --> 01:25:45,120
fireplace for the ambiance

1948
01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:46,639
if you just want to sit in front of that

1949
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:48,800
fire it's very nice it's relaxing you

1950
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:50,400
just sit there in front of the fire

1951
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:53,600
but i really need uh

1952
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,199
heat also and with my cabin

1953
01:26:01,110 --> 01:25:59,520
there is hundreds of hundreds and

1954
01:26:02,790 --> 01:26:01,120
hundreds of acres it's surrounded by

1955
01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:02,800
state forests i'm friendly with all of

1956
01:26:10,149 --> 01:26:03,520
the

1957
01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:10,159
i don't know what those guys are

1958
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:11,600
i'm very friendly with all them and i

1959
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:13,440
can go into the state game lands

1960
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:15,440
and state forests and take any what i

1961
01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:17,440
want as long as it's already down

1962
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:19,840
or it's a standing dead tree i'm going

1963
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:21,360
to take those down and take them out so

1964
01:26:25,110 --> 01:26:23,280
i have access to all the free firewood

1965
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,120
that i want or can handle

1966
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:27,600
or have time for you just some assembly

1967
01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:28,560
required

1968
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,480
so i like the fireplace i like the wood

1969
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:32,159
stove better because it

1970
01:26:35,750 --> 01:26:35,280
it heats my entire huge house and no gas

1971
01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:35,760
bill

1972
01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:47,510
paranormal jiggy so many people are

1973
01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:49,520
comfortable with the way of doing things

1974
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:52,480
since the pandemic

1975
01:26:55,750 --> 01:26:55,120
yeah it's a whole new world out there

1976
01:26:59,030 --> 01:26:55,760
the

1977
01:27:00,950 --> 01:26:59,040
dutchman

1978
01:27:02,149 --> 01:27:00,960
uh and i love this bar because it

1979
01:27:05,110 --> 01:27:02,159
reminds me of like an

1980
01:27:06,790 --> 01:27:05,120
old-school irish philly bar and it's

1981
01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:06,800
kind of like the cheers bar it's one big

1982
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:07,760
square

1983
01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:10,639
but i stopped in there because they just

1984
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:11,280
had just

1985
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:12,960
opened and i want to say hello to some

1986
01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:14,639
of my friends that worked there

1987
01:27:20,310 --> 01:27:18,400
and uh it's it was surreal and weird

1988
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:20,320
they have bar stools and then they have

1989
01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:21,920
plastic between

1990
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:24,800
each of the barstools so it just seems

1991
01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:25,199
like

1992
01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:27,120
bizarre this whole this whole thing

1993
01:27:33,590 --> 01:27:30,239
seems bizarre right now

1994
01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:33,600
kali armstrong is here shout out to kali

1995
01:27:44,229 --> 01:27:35,760
who says hey stephen how you doing

1996
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:46,790
and reemsy says i'm probably going to

1997
01:27:50,149 --> 01:27:48,480
stay retired now because i'm having to

1998
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:50,159
take care of my 90 year old dad more and

1999
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:51,760
more these days

2000
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:54,880
i go help him every day now reem c that

2001
01:27:59,110 --> 01:27:56,639
is a good thing to do

2002
01:27:59,910 --> 01:27:59,120
um i know something about that because

2003
01:28:01,750 --> 01:27:59,920
i'm

2004
01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:01,760
pretty much the full-time caretaker of

2005
01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:03,920
my autistic son who's non-verbal so

2006
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:05,280
that's very challenging

2007
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:07,679
and then i also after my father died i

2008
01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:09,840
took care of my mother for like 25 years

2009
01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:10,239
she

2010
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:11,760
came to live with us and that was very

2011
01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:14,000
difficult and uh

2012
01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:17,440
it's not fun taking care of an elder

2013
01:28:22,070 --> 01:28:20,800
but it's it's the right thing and the

2014
01:28:24,629 --> 01:28:22,080
good thing to do

2015
01:28:32,950 --> 01:28:24,639
so god bless you for doing that you know

2016
01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:36,790
oh paranormal jiggy is asking me

2017
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:38,960
have i've ever been on a paranormal

2018
01:28:43,830 --> 01:28:40,320
investigation stephen

2019
01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:43,840
no diggy but i have a friend who had all

2020
01:28:47,110 --> 01:28:45,040
the ghost hunter

2021
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:47,120
gear like the magnetometers and all this

2022
01:28:51,270 --> 01:28:48,639
stuff and

2023
01:28:53,030 --> 01:28:51,280
my wife and i are in our first house we

2024
01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:53,040
lived across the street from a graveyard

2025
01:28:56,149 --> 01:28:54,880
which was kind of bizarre but i loved it

2026
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:56,159
because i always joked that

2027
01:29:00,310 --> 01:28:59,040
that the neighbors were very quiet uh so

2028
01:29:01,669 --> 01:29:00,320
we lived right across the street from a

2029
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:01,679
graveyard and we heard

2030
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:04,480
knocking and weird stuff and my wife's

2031
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:05,520
shorts

2032
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:08,080
kept both of us swore that we saw like

2033
01:29:13,270 --> 01:29:10,239
shadows and things at night

2034
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:13,280
weird stuff in the house so one of my

2035
01:29:16,550 --> 01:29:14,880
friends who's into this ghost hunting

2036
01:29:18,149 --> 01:29:16,560
thing and i guess he's a good center he

2037
01:29:19,189 --> 01:29:18,159
came over with all the stuff and he

2038
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:19,199
found

2039
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:23,280
hot very high levels of magnetic fields

2040
01:29:27,189 --> 01:29:24,880
in the house and said that could be

2041
01:29:29,669 --> 01:29:27,199
causing it because magnetic fields could

2042
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:29,679
you know alter your brain chemistry or

2043
01:29:33,990 --> 01:29:31,440
cause hallucinations

2044
01:29:34,950 --> 01:29:34,000
but i've never been on an actual field

2045
01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:34,960
investigation

2046
01:29:38,950 --> 01:29:37,760
other than you know jiggy my thing has

2047
01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:38,960
always been ufos

2048
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:41,280
so like i went to kecksburg and saw the

2049
01:29:49,669 --> 01:29:43,199
kecksburg crash site

2050
01:29:54,550 --> 01:29:52,229
yeah i agree with jiggy who's talking to

2051
01:29:56,709 --> 01:29:54,560
rincey says may you stay blessed you've

2052
01:29:58,709 --> 01:29:56,719
got a good heart

2053
01:30:03,910 --> 01:29:58,719
absolutely green see that's an awesome

2054
01:30:07,510 --> 01:30:05,669
and out of mind all the plastic is

2055
01:30:10,390 --> 01:30:07,520
stupid the air circulation

2056
01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:10,400
cancels it all out just so darn dumb i'm

2057
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:16,870
oh yeah you're right you're right oh

2058
01:30:18,629 --> 01:30:18,320
she's talking about the bar that i went

2059
01:30:20,390 --> 01:30:18,639
to

2060
01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:20,400
where they had plastic between the bar

2061
01:30:24,149 --> 01:30:22,080
stools like

2062
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:24,159
i i mean i guess that's going to protect

2063
01:30:28,390 --> 01:30:26,239
against you if somebody sit next to you

2064
01:30:30,709 --> 01:30:28,400
and they call for they sneeze because

2065
01:30:31,830 --> 01:30:30,719
it'll go on the side of the plastic

2066
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:31,840
but i would think some of that

2067
01:30:34,390 --> 01:30:33,520
particulate would make its way in the

2068
01:30:36,390 --> 01:30:34,400
air

2069
01:30:38,790 --> 01:30:36,400
and it's just going to be in there i

2070
01:30:41,910 --> 01:30:38,800
have been

2071
01:30:44,229 --> 01:30:41,920
i'm immunocompromised somewhat and

2072
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:44,239
it's just honestly i'm not very healthy

2073
01:30:46,790 --> 01:30:45,360
and so i

2074
01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:46,800
when this happened started happening i

2075
01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:48,400
was very worried uh

2076
01:30:52,149 --> 01:30:49,920
not just about myself but then i also

2077
01:30:55,510 --> 01:30:52,159
have a son who has my autistic son is

2078
01:30:57,189 --> 01:30:55,520
very he's got bad asthma and so

2079
01:30:59,189 --> 01:30:57,199
so we have two people in our household

2080
01:31:01,830 --> 01:30:59,199
that are at high risk really

2081
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:01,840
and so i have been incredibly careful i

2082
01:31:06,950 --> 01:31:04,560
have hand sanitizer and gloves in my car

2083
01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:06,960
and i'm always using the hand sanitizer

2084
01:31:11,350 --> 01:31:09,040
in my car like i go to get gas

2085
01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:11,360
and i'm and i'm like i gotta get a glove

2086
01:31:16,550 --> 01:31:13,679
to touch the touch pad it's made me

2087
01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:16,560
a little bit crazy because i was already

2088
01:31:21,110 --> 01:31:17,440
a little

2089
01:31:23,669 --> 01:31:21,120
germaphobic already uh but this just

2090
01:31:27,189 --> 01:31:23,679
it's just giving me like really bad

2091
01:31:30,629 --> 01:31:28,709
paranology i try to become an

2092
01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:30,639
investigator google fun they never got

2093
01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:32,400
back to me and we have tons of equipment

2094
01:31:35,910 --> 01:31:33,440
for investigating

2095
01:31:37,510 --> 01:31:35,920
yeah and you're not too far so i would

2096
01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:37,520
love to do some of that with you jiggy

2097
01:31:41,350 --> 01:31:39,520
if i can drive there especially even if

2098
01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:41,360
it's like an eight-hour drive

2099
01:31:46,950 --> 01:31:42,880
i'd be interested in doing that kind of

2100
01:31:50,470 --> 01:31:48,709
and i don't think you're missing

2101
01:31:52,310 --> 01:31:50,480
anything of mufon because i kind of

2102
01:31:53,910 --> 01:31:52,320
think move on is a joke like you give

2103
01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:53,920
them a hundred dollars and they give you

2104
01:31:57,510 --> 01:31:55,840
a certificate that says you're a ufo

2105
01:31:59,270 --> 01:31:57,520
field investigator and

2106
01:32:01,030 --> 01:31:59,280
most people get the certificate and they

2107
01:32:02,070 --> 01:32:01,040
never really do anything with it but

2108
01:32:05,189 --> 01:32:02,080
they think there's something

2109
01:32:06,790 --> 01:32:05,199
important now like i always laugh when

2110
01:32:08,870 --> 01:32:06,800
somebody signs their name and you see

2111
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:08,880
like move on field investigator like

2112
01:32:12,550 --> 01:32:10,320
yeah anybody with 100 bucks

2113
01:32:14,229 --> 01:32:12,560
can be that too you just give them 100

2114
01:32:16,149 --> 01:32:14,239
bucks and you take like an open book

2115
01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:16,159
test or something i don't know

2116
01:32:23,750 --> 01:32:22,629
oh paranormal genie says you're welcome

2117
01:32:30,709 --> 01:32:23,760
anytime

2118
01:32:35,189 --> 01:32:33,270
and super v fun cat says keep trying

2119
01:32:37,830 --> 01:32:35,199
jiggy they are always lagging on getting

2120
01:32:39,669 --> 01:32:37,840
back you have to pass a test

2121
01:32:41,030 --> 01:32:39,679
yeah and i you know i don't want to be

2122
01:32:42,470 --> 01:32:41,040
too critical super b

2123
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:42,480
but i think the test goes something like

2124
01:32:46,070 --> 01:32:44,080
do you got your hundred dollars

2125
01:32:47,590 --> 01:32:46,080
put it right here congratulations you're

2126
01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:47,600
a field investigator i don't know if

2127
01:32:50,950 --> 01:32:48,320
it's a hundred

2128
01:32:53,830 --> 01:32:50,960
something like that and you know i don't

2129
01:32:55,910 --> 01:32:53,840
know but i have a problem with like

2130
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:55,920
all this money stuff like there's a lot

2131
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:57,920
of money being funneled into mufon

2132
01:33:02,390 --> 01:33:00,560
and there's there's famous reports of

2133
01:33:02,790 --> 01:33:02,400
mufon investigators where the like the

2134
01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:02,800
guy

2135
01:33:05,990 --> 01:33:04,400
got metal when he was like we have to

2136
01:33:07,510 --> 01:33:06,000
get this analyzed and they got all this

2137
01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:07,520
money and they didn't do anything about

2138
01:33:12,390 --> 01:33:09,760
some metal that they found that a

2139
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:12,400
purported ufo

2140
01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:15,040
dropped some material and this move fire

2141
01:33:18,629 --> 01:33:16,800
investigator picked it up

2142
01:33:20,070 --> 01:33:18,639
went to the higher ups and said this is

2143
01:33:21,910 --> 01:33:20,080
great i've got this material we have to

2144
01:33:22,709 --> 01:33:21,920
get it analyzed oh we don't have money

2145
01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:22,719
for that

2146
01:33:26,310 --> 01:33:25,440
they've got tens of thousands of dollars

2147
01:33:28,470 --> 01:33:26,320
in their national

2148
01:33:29,830 --> 01:33:28,480
and regional budgets i guess i don't

2149
01:33:31,270 --> 01:33:29,840
know why they wouldn't follow up on

2150
01:33:33,350 --> 01:33:31,280
something like that if they're really

2151
01:33:34,950 --> 01:33:33,360
helped to get the truth that turned me

2152
01:33:37,910 --> 01:33:34,960
off and some other stuff

2153
01:33:39,430 --> 01:33:37,920
we had uh john bentry as a previous

2154
01:33:41,669 --> 01:33:39,440
guest on the midnight hour show

2155
01:33:42,550 --> 01:33:41,679
and he's like the regional director in

2156
01:33:45,910 --> 01:33:42,560
my state

2157
01:33:48,550 --> 01:33:45,920
in pennsylvania and you know hey john

2158
01:33:50,149 --> 01:33:48,560
i i really believe he was a good guy

2159
01:33:51,910 --> 01:33:50,159
maybe he misspoke

2160
01:33:53,189 --> 01:33:51,920
but i don't think he did and he said

2161
01:33:56,310 --> 01:33:53,199
some really racist

2162
01:33:58,149 --> 01:33:56,320
stuff and then he didn't apologize and

2163
01:34:00,149 --> 01:33:58,159
mufon didn't fire him or

2164
01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:00,159
were telling me how to resign and that

2165
01:34:14,390 --> 01:34:10,229
oh super v yes i paid my dues for years

2166
01:34:18,950 --> 01:34:17,430
super v i i give up on them we do our

2167
01:34:20,629 --> 01:34:18,960
own stuff i was a paid member for years

2168
01:34:22,550 --> 01:34:20,639
i wanted to seriously investigate claims

2169
01:34:23,669 --> 01:34:22,560
they received about ufos in new england

2170
01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:23,679
area around me

2171
01:34:26,950 --> 01:34:24,960
yeah that's why a lot of people get

2172
01:34:28,310 --> 01:34:26,960
involved with them

2173
01:34:30,390 --> 01:34:28,320
you know i think there are some

2174
01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:30,400
independent groups of investigators that

2175
01:34:35,669 --> 01:34:32,719
you can join that don't want any money

2176
01:34:36,950 --> 01:34:35,679
that will help you and teach you how to

2177
01:34:40,709 --> 01:34:36,960
interview people

2178
01:34:43,030 --> 01:34:40,719
take samples you know document cases

2179
01:34:45,030 --> 01:34:43,040
and i think those may be a little more

2180
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:45,040
worthwhile

2181
01:34:50,790 --> 01:34:48,480
so uh back to the phone

2182
01:34:51,510 --> 01:34:50,800
if anybody does want to call in the live

2183
01:34:53,590 --> 01:34:51,520
chat

2184
01:34:55,750 --> 01:34:53,600
or if anybody wants to call in on our

2185
01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:55,760
live call-in number the phone number is

2186
01:35:03,669 --> 01:34:57,520
in the live chat

2187
01:35:09,669 --> 01:35:08,149
yeah and so uh jiggy i saw that drama

2188
01:35:12,790 --> 01:35:09,679
with them like

2189
01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:12,800
dude i think he's melting down

2190
01:35:17,590 --> 01:35:15,440
and yes today he was still still

2191
01:35:21,270 --> 01:35:17,600
streaming

2192
01:35:24,470 --> 01:35:21,280
um and you're evil

2193
01:35:25,750 --> 01:35:24,480
i think jiggy so just wanted to let you

2194
01:35:29,590 --> 01:35:25,760
know that you're evil

2195
01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:29,600
jiggy you're evil and you're calling him

2196
01:35:36,790 --> 01:35:30,320
a racist

2197
01:35:38,310 --> 01:35:36,800
and i hope uh nobody will i hope anybody

2198
01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:38,320
will forgive me if you're offended by

2199
01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:39,840
such things but it's been a very long

2200
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:42,000
day so yes i'm gonna drink on camera

2201
01:35:46,629 --> 01:35:43,600
i'm glad that you guys could all be here

2202
01:35:50,790 --> 01:35:49,030
i wanted to mention i'm trying to find

2203
01:35:52,629 --> 01:35:50,800
stories like tonight's story which

2204
01:35:54,070 --> 01:35:52,639
is kind of an you know an out there

2205
01:35:56,229 --> 01:35:54,080
story that's been

2206
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:56,239
out in the public but isn't really

2207
01:35:59,430 --> 01:35:58,400
covered isn't really talked about at ufo

2208
01:36:01,990 --> 01:35:59,440
conferences much

2209
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:02,000
maybe it's an old story but it's still

2210
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:04,560
you know a good story

2211
01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:07,360
i just think it's best for this new show

2212
01:36:09,830 --> 01:36:07,920
to cast

2213
01:36:12,229 --> 01:36:09,840
sort of a wider net and not concentrate

2214
01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:12,239
so much on ufos anymore

2215
01:36:15,910 --> 01:36:14,080
especially because i think that's like

2216
01:36:17,669 --> 01:36:15,920
the ufos is just a rabbit hole that you

2217
01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:17,679
never get to the bottom of

2218
01:36:22,149 --> 01:36:20,400
no all the stories that i've looked into

2219
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:22,159
i've never gotten to the bottom of them

2220
01:36:28,149 --> 01:36:25,600
never found any solid actual proof

2221
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:28,159
that it's aliens i mean sure people see

2222
01:36:33,669 --> 01:36:30,320
lights in the sky

2223
01:36:35,430 --> 01:36:33,679
i am unconvinced

2224
01:36:36,790 --> 01:36:35,440
but i'd love to believe you know i have

2225
01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:36,800
that poster

2226
01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:39,040
i just saw ryan from the secret

2227
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:41,119
teachings uh put up a new studio

2228
01:36:44,950 --> 01:36:42,960
and he has the same poster that i do we

2229
01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:44,960
all have it it's the you know like the

2230
01:36:49,910 --> 01:36:47,280
x-files poster with this flying saucer

2231
01:36:53,350 --> 01:36:49,920
and it says i want to believe

2232
01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:53,360
that's where i'm at and i thought i

2233
01:36:58,629 --> 01:36:53,920
could

2234
01:37:06,149 --> 01:37:01,669
try to do a share screen here and show

2235
01:37:07,669 --> 01:37:06,159
just a few more things

2236
01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:07,679
let's see if we can get into these

2237
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:10,080
downloads here

2238
01:37:14,390 --> 01:37:12,000
just have to i have to come up with a

2239
01:37:19,270 --> 01:37:14,400
better system because right now

2240
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:23,270
i am transferring stuff

2241
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:25,590
from from the you know like my main

2242
01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:27,440
computer and just using a laptop for the

2243
01:37:31,590 --> 01:37:28,719
stream

2244
01:37:34,390 --> 01:37:31,600
and that is not always the best way to

2245
01:37:37,669 --> 01:37:34,400
go about it

2246
01:37:39,590 --> 01:37:37,679
okay i can share

2247
01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:39,600
i just want to show another picture of

2248
01:37:50,629 --> 01:37:47,350
application and here we have

2249
01:37:54,629 --> 01:37:50,639
the actual graveyard in aurora texas

2250
01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:54,639
the entrance of it where uh

2251
01:38:01,750 --> 01:37:59,840
the alien body is purported to be buried

2252
01:38:03,189 --> 01:38:01,760
but i sort of think i agree with william

2253
01:38:06,070 --> 01:38:03,199
pullen until

2254
01:38:08,390 --> 01:38:06,080
real evidence is available i think this

2255
01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:08,400
may just be a texas tall tale but i

2256
01:38:11,990 --> 01:38:10,080
would love to believe it was true

2257
01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:12,000
and like i said if they'll let me dig i

2258
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:13,920
sent them a letter i'm not very hopeful

2259
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:15,119
that they're going to give me permission

2260
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:17,119
to go digging up bodies

2261
01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:19,440
but if they do i will go there with the

2262
01:38:22,870 --> 01:38:21,600
show so that's my promise to the people

2263
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:22,880
of aurora texas

2264
01:38:26,709 --> 01:38:24,560
and the world if you really want to

2265
01:38:30,229 --> 01:38:26,719
prove that this is a true story

2266
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:30,239
then by all means you know

2267
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:33,760
go and give me permission

2268
01:38:39,189 --> 01:38:36,400
i believe there's been five or six

2269
01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:39,199
different people who have asked for

2270
01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:42,719
the right to exhume that gravesite

2271
01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:46,960
or to uh

2272
01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:48,960
well they did give ufo hunters

2273
01:38:51,830 --> 01:38:50,400
permission to use ground penetrating

2274
01:38:53,510 --> 01:38:51,840
radar but that just tells you that

2275
01:38:57,669 --> 01:38:53,520
there's something under the ground

2276
01:39:00,390 --> 01:38:57,679
that really does not tell you

2277
01:39:00,709 --> 01:39:00,400
that it's an alien body i think though

2278
01:39:03,910 --> 01:39:00,719
that

2279
01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:03,920
the the people of aurora may

2280
01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:05,840
have a vested interest in keeping the

2281
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:07,440
story going and not

2282
01:39:14,149 --> 01:39:10,880
letting people prove or disprove it

2283
01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:14,159
as you know actually

2284
01:39:20,229 --> 01:39:17,199
something that really did happen

2285
01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:20,239
but you never know i am

2286
01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:22,480
hopeful that someday maybe the truth

2287
01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:24,400
this thing will be known

2288
01:39:28,149 --> 01:39:26,560
and i just wanted to show one other

2289
01:39:32,149 --> 01:39:28,159
thing

2290
01:39:36,310 --> 01:39:32,159
has been numerous documentaries

2291
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:36,320
books and also uh

2292
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:40,080
there was actually this was a

2293
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:42,480
hollywood movie the aurora encounter

2294
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:44,320
i've never seen this

2295
01:39:48,709 --> 01:39:47,040
uh and i kind of did a quick search for

2296
01:39:50,629 --> 01:39:48,719
it it's not on netflix so if anybody

2297
01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:50,639
knows where i can find a copy of that

2298
01:39:53,910 --> 01:39:51,760
movie

2299
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:53,920
uh i'd be interested in seeing it

2300
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:55,920
because i'd like to see

2301
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:58,560
just how i don't you know it's a quick

2302
01:40:01,750 --> 01:40:00,080
story so i'm not sure how they made a

2303
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:01,760
two-hour movie about it but i'd love to

2304
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:05,040
see that movie it sounds like uh

2305
01:40:08,550 --> 01:40:06,960
a fun movie if you're into this kind of

2306
01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:08,560
stuff

2307
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:16,149
the alien sacrificed his life to save

2308
01:40:20,470 --> 01:40:17,679
the town economy

2309
01:40:22,870 --> 01:40:20,480
yeah super b you might be right that

2310
01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:22,880
might be exactly what happened

2311
01:40:27,830 --> 01:40:26,560
and out of mind says money and reem see

2312
01:40:30,310 --> 01:40:27,840
i still think it is real

2313
01:40:46,149 --> 01:40:30,320
green sea i would love to believe it

2314
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:47,910
and paranology says you can investigate

2315
01:40:51,189 --> 01:40:49,679
your ufo phenomena but you need great

2316
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:51,199
equipment and be able to respond

2317
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:54,239
quickly jesus

2318
01:40:58,550 --> 01:40:56,639
i think i should go get a pillow sit

2319
01:41:02,950 --> 01:40:58,560
higher

2320
01:41:05,750 --> 01:41:02,960
yeah i think you're right and jiggy on

2321
01:41:07,189 --> 01:41:05,760
now he said i got a big heart and he's a

2322
01:41:10,709 --> 01:41:07,199
teddy bear he doesn't know if he loves

2323
01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:12,149
i don't think he's in love with you

2324
01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:14,080
jiggy from the sounds of things

2325
01:41:21,669 --> 01:41:18,000
but you know uh i i kind of support you

2326
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:21,679
guys i joked about him when he went off

2327
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:23,679
um by the way i should say all you

2328
01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:26,159
leeches better donate to my patreon

2329
01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:28,480
you're all here for free i'm not getting

2330
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:30,560
any money from you leeches

2331
01:41:33,910 --> 01:41:32,639
no he you know sort of had his meltdown

2332
01:41:35,830 --> 01:41:33,920
and he went off like

2333
01:41:37,430 --> 01:41:35,840
telling people they better donate right

2334
01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:37,440
now stop

2335
01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:40,159
complaining and donate and i i kind of

2336
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:41,760
lost all respect from because listen we

2337
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:43,040
all have bad days

2338
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:44,560
and you know what he could have taken

2339
01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:46,560
that stream down edited that out put it

2340
01:41:48,870 --> 01:41:47,199
back

2341
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:48,880
where he could have just apologized and

2342
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:50,800
i would have been fine but i don't think

2343
01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:52,960
it's a good idea to go yelling at people

2344
01:41:57,910 --> 01:41:55,760
donate you leeches you know so i did

2345
01:41:59,430 --> 01:41:57,920
actually he's responsible for my patreon

2346
01:42:02,070 --> 01:41:59,440
jumping up from like

2347
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:02,080
11 to like 50 because i start making it

2348
01:42:05,590 --> 01:42:04,239
a joke on my radio show like you reaches

2349
01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:05,600
all better donate

2350
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:07,600
you're all getting this content for free

2351
01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:09,119
i'm not getting any money

2352
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:10,880
you're all a bunch of leeches and it

2353
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:13,280
really was a joke i was joking about him

2354
01:42:16,149 --> 01:42:14,000
doing that

2355
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:16,159
and but people started donating which

2356
01:42:32,470 --> 01:42:29,109
more comments

2357
01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:32,480
yeah so you know i guess friends i i

2358
01:42:38,390 --> 01:42:34,880
want to thank each and every one of you

2359
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:38,400
for joining us and uh we're gonna

2360
01:42:42,149 --> 01:42:40,800
we're gonna wrap things up here and i'm

2361
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:42,159
happy to say that i

2362
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:44,320
finally remembered to do a bumper for

2363
01:42:48,310 --> 01:42:45,600
the end of the show

2364
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:48,320
it's so funny uh this is episode three

2365
01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:49,600
of our show

2366
01:42:53,910 --> 01:42:52,719
and i forgot to do it for the first show

2367
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:53,920
and then i get to the end of the show

2368
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:55,679
and i was like oops what do i do now

2369
01:42:58,310 --> 01:42:56,639
okay good night

2370
01:43:00,629 --> 01:42:58,320
and i didn't have a bumper to play and

2371
01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:00,639
then the next one i forgot again so i

2372
01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:03,040
played like a we'll be right back bumper

2373
01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:06,239
but this time i have actually

2374
01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:09,040
made a thanks for joining us bumper so i

2375
01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:10,480
want to thank each and every one of you

2376
01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:12,000
for joining us i think we're going to do

2377
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:13,520
another show this week

2378
01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:15,360
and that should be either tomorrow night

2379
01:43:19,270 --> 01:43:17,760
or thursday but later thursday because i

2380
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:19,280
don't want to step on jiggy's

2381
01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:21,440
normal stream time where anybody's

2382
01:43:27,030 --> 01:43:23,440
really if i can avoid it

2383
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:27,040
so i guess i would say

2384
01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:28,400
thanks each and every one of you for

2385
01:43:33,430 --> 01:43:30,080
joining me please like

2386
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:33,440
share comment and subscribe and you know

2387
01:43:37,350 --> 01:43:36,400
maybe even just email the channel to a

2388
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:37,360
friend of yours

2389
01:43:42,790 --> 01:43:40,960
who you know may like this kind of stuff

2390
01:43:45,030 --> 01:43:42,800
that would be the best way to help me

2391
01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:45,040
right now i'll start calling everybody

2392
01:43:48,310 --> 01:43:46,880
leeches and begging for money sometime

2393
01:43:50,550 --> 01:43:48,320
in the next

2394
01:43:51,990 --> 01:43:50,560
show a couple of shows and i'm even

2395
01:43:55,109 --> 01:43:52,000
gonna have commercials that

2396
01:43:59,590 --> 01:43:55,119
will beg for money so i'm i'm upping my

2397
01:44:01,669 --> 01:43:59,600
hand in my hat please donate game

2398
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:01,679
so friends thanks each and every one of

2399
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:04,080
you for joining me until next time folks

2400
01:44:08,070 --> 01:44:06,800
my name is steven cambion reminding you

2401
01:44:10,950 --> 01:44:08,080
that sometimes

2402
01:44:11,590 --> 01:44:10,960
yes sometimes the truth may just be

2403
01:44:29,790 --> 01:44:11,600
hidden

2404
01:45:48,090 --> 01:45:08,910
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